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Lurtz??
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Greener

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One of Saruman's orcs?
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Nope. Think scrubbing bubbles.
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Oh! I completely forgot about the King of the Dead.

Can it be "To fulfill our oath and have peace"? That seems too short.
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That's it! I did say that the translation was much longer than the original. Isn't it amazing that it changed that much and reached equilibrium in one set of translations?

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Do not kill; the hobbit is to prevent them from harm.
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Voronwë the Faithful wrote:Nope. Think scrubbing bubbles.
Huh?
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Really? You never heard the Dead men that Aragorn recruited referred to as the green scrubbing bubbles?
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Voronwë the Faithful wrote:Really? You never heard the Dead men that Aragorn recruited referred to as the green scrubbing bubbles?
Haha. No... or if I did I've forgotten. Very appropriate, though.
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Definitely one of my least favorite aspects of the films.

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Do we need a hint? Here's the translated quote.
Frelga wrote:Do not kill; the hobbit is to prevent them from harm.
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Is it spoken by Gollum?
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No.

The original has "hobbits", plural and without the "the".
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Is "Do not kill" a fairly accurate translation of the first part of the quote?
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It conveys the same sense, yes.
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Is "hobbits" used in a general sense, or does the quote refer to specific hobbits?
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Generic. I mean, general.
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Is it from the Scouring of the Shire? Frodo saying there is to be no killing of Hobbits?
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That's it.
Although possibly not the quote you are thinking. There are two that are similar in content, but the first one did not do well in the translation.
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