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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:53 pm 
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‘There’s no greys, only white that’s got grubby. I’m surprised you don’t know that. And sin, young man, is when you treat people as things. Including yourself. That’s what sin is.’
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 6:05 pm 
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Spoken by Saruman at Bag End?

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 6:09 pm 
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Jude wrote:
Spoken by Saruman at Bag End?
No and earlier.

While this is said in a scene that does not appear in the movie, the quote is spoken on screen, to a different character.

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‘There’s no greys, only white that’s got grubby. I’m surprised you don’t know that. And sin, young man, is when you treat people as things. Including yourself. That’s what sin is.’
‘It’s a lot more complicated than that -’
‘No. It ain’t. When people say things are a lot more complicated than that, they means they’re getting worried that they won’t like the truth. People as things, that’s where it starts.’
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 4:21 pm 
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Related to Denethor?

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 4:41 pm 
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No, he's already dead. The dying in the sentence is hypothetical.

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‘There’s no greys, only white that’s got grubby. I’m surprised you don’t know that. And sin, young man, is when you treat people as things. Including yourself. That’s what sin is.’
‘It’s a lot more complicated than that -’
‘No. It ain’t. When people say things are a lot more complicated than that, they means they’re getting worried that they won’t like the truth. People as things, that’s where it starts.’
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 6:21 pm 
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Just to bring it to the new page:

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Those that deny the Day of Judgment


Spoken in Mordor?

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 6:50 pm 
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Eagles involved?

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 6:57 pm 
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Just a wild guess:

"But death in battle may come to us all yet, willing or unwilling." - Faramir to Éowyn

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 7:00 pm 
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Aaah... could be, could be.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 8:07 pm 
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Jude wrote:
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"But death in battle may come to us all yet, willing or unwilling." - Faramir to Éowyn
Close but no.

As Eldo noted above, the words "Those that" do appear in the original.

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‘There’s no greys, only white that’s got grubby. I’m surprised you don’t know that. And sin, young man, is when you treat people as things. Including yourself. That’s what sin is.’
‘It’s a lot more complicated than that -’
‘No. It ain’t. When people say things are a lot more complicated than that, they means they’re getting worried that they won’t like the truth. People as things, that’s where it starts.’
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 8:23 pm 
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Perhaps this:

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"And those who have not swords can still die upon them."


Éowyn to the Warden of the Houses of Healing?

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 8:35 pm 
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Yep!

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‘There’s no greys, only white that’s got grubby. I’m surprised you don’t know that. And sin, young man, is when you treat people as things. Including yourself. That’s what sin is.’
‘It’s a lot more complicated than that -’
‘No. It ain’t. When people say things are a lot more complicated than that, they means they’re getting worried that they won’t like the truth. People as things, that’s where it starts.’
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 8:55 pm 
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I can't believe how this turned out:

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You don't need to go to the dentist's.


Nothing teeth-related in the original.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:42 pm 
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Just out of curiosity, can someone run the following quote through the translator? I want to see if you get the same weirdness that I get:

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Doubtless we shall be hidden from all unfriendly eyes when the snow has covered us, but that will not help us.


That was my first choice, but the result was so unrelated, it would have been unguessable.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:29 pm 
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Ditto. Subtle doesn't begin to describe it.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:49 pm 
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I get: "- "You folks"? - Subtle."

Really.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:52 pm 
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You both got the same thing I did! It wasn't a fluke!

I'd really like to know what sort of algorithm was used to translate the original quote to that.

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Why does it suddenly go from a long phrase in both English and Japanese to just "Us." in the second English translation? That doesn't make any sense. But I did it several times and it does so every time.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 2:08 pm 
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Jude wrote:
I can't believe how this turned out:

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You don't need to go to the dentist's.


Nothing teeth-related in the original.


Is it healing related?

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 2:37 pm 
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