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Aha! It's the Gaffer about Brandybucks.

"They fool about with boats on that big river - and that isn't natural."
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That's the one!!!111oneoneone
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Tall island can go even further.
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Is this referring to any place west of Middle-Earth?
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Is it actually referring to an island?
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Yes.
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Is it from The Hobbit?
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No
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Did “Tol” become Tall?
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Did the quote get significantly shortened in the translation?
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Jude wrote:Did the quote get significantly shortened in the translation?
No, only a little.
Inanna wrote:Did “Tol” become Tall?
No, tall is in the quote, and describes the island in question.
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Was it spoken during the Council of Elrond?
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No, later. But the speaker was present at the Council.
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Aragorn?
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No. The speaker had very firm opinions about travel options.
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Ooh, I think I found it:
Boromir wrote:To the tall isle I will go, but no further.
Spoken during a debate about their destination after Lothlórien.
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That's the one, Jude.

Well, Boromir wasn't wrong. He didn't go any further. :(
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Frelga wrote:That's the one, Jude.

Well, Boromir wasn't wrong. He didn't go any further. :(
That’s true. Never connected those two dots.
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Didn't Faramir say something about how the men of Gondor always do what they say, or perish in the attempt? Boromir shouldn't have jinxed himself with those words; if he hadn't said them, he'd probably still be alive today :D

Well, this quote never reached equilibrium:
Such interference is not complete. This song is not. Final cut gives a lively chorus, waiting for both sides!
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