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I guess it must be part of this statement, "'How do ye of uncouth race dare to demand aught of me, Elu Thingol, Lord of Beleriand, whose life began by the waters of Cuiviénen years uncounted ere the fathers of the stunted people awoke?'" The first part, before Thingol names himself?
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Find the mistake!

ETA: Interestingly, in the translation process it went completely away from the original so that it would have been completely unrecognizable, but then veered back towards the original. Very strange!
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Is the gist of the original quote like the final translation?
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Not really. Actually it is closer to the reverse.
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Is the original short and pithy like the translation?
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Not as short and pithy. It's about twice as long, maybe a bit more.
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Is it from the scene in The Prancing Pony? when Frodo disappears?
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No. Later.
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Gandalf and the Fool of a Took in Moria?
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Is the original in the imperative mood?
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Inanna, no, but just a little earlier than that. And it does involve Gandalf and a hobbit, but in a different way.

Jude, no I don't think so (though honestly I am not sure).
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Does "mistake" occur in the original?
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yes
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Sam saying "That was an eye-opener, and no mistake!"
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Yup!

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Yay!
New quote:

Look at it! Change the style.
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Is Saruman present at this quote?
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No...
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