The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

For discussion of the upcoming films based on The Hobbit and related material, as well as previous films based on Tolkien's work
Post Reply
User avatar
Voronwë the Faithful
At the intersection of here and now
Posts: 46098
Joined: Mon Nov 21, 2005 1:41 am
Contact:

Re: The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

Post by Voronwë the Faithful »

True enough.
"Spirits in the shape of hawks and eagles flew ever to and from his halls; and their eyes could see to the depths of the seas, and pierce the hidden caverns beneath the world."
User avatar
Dave_LF
Wrong within normal parameters
Posts: 6804
Joined: Fri Mar 17, 2006 10:59 am
Location: The other side of Michigan

Re: The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

Post by Dave_LF »

They say the surest way for a reporter to make someone look like an idiot is to interview him in person and then print his words verbatim, and that effect is on display here. How do professional interviewers handle this? Is it customary to tweak the text to make it more print-friendly?
User avatar
Voronwë the Faithful
At the intersection of here and now
Posts: 46098
Joined: Mon Nov 21, 2005 1:41 am
Contact:

Re: The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

Post by Voronwë the Faithful »

http://youtu.be/pv2Ms5QPerg

Tele, are those battle rams in the film?
"Spirits in the shape of hawks and eagles flew ever to and from his halls; and their eyes could see to the depths of the seas, and pierce the hidden caverns beneath the world."
Telemachos
Posts: 45
Joined: Sat Apr 29, 2006 12:18 am
Location: SoCal

Re: The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

Post by Telemachos »

Voronwë the Faithful wrote:http://youtu.be/pv2Ms5QPerg

Tele, are those battle rams in the film?
Yep. :horse:
Passdagas the Brown
Posts: 3154
Joined: Fri Jun 28, 2013 9:31 pm

Re: The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

Post by Passdagas the Brown »

That's very odd, as some of the early reviewers stated that the rams had been removed...

Did some people perhaps seen an unfinished cut?
Telemachos
Posts: 45
Joined: Sat Apr 29, 2006 12:18 am
Location: SoCal

Re: The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

Post by Telemachos »

Passdagas the Brown wrote:That's very odd, as some of the early reviewers stated that the rams had been removed...

Did some people perhaps seen an unfinished cut?
Now you've got me doubting myself. :rofl:

I could've sworn I saw them, unless somehow my memory is conflating the movie with the TV spots.

What's definitely in are mountain goats.
User avatar
Voronwë the Faithful
At the intersection of here and now
Posts: 46098
Joined: Mon Nov 21, 2005 1:41 am
Contact:

Re: The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

Post by Voronwë the Faithful »

I think the answer is that what was reported was that the scene that we saw in the trailer with the dwarves of the Iron Hills charging on battle rams is out, but this scene of these few dwarves (who are they, can anyone tell?) is in. I seem to recall someone saying something like that.
"Spirits in the shape of hawks and eagles flew ever to and from his halls; and their eyes could see to the depths of the seas, and pierce the hidden caverns beneath the world."
User avatar
Dave_LF
Wrong within normal parameters
Posts: 6804
Joined: Fri Mar 17, 2006 10:59 am
Location: The other side of Michigan

Re: The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

Post by Dave_LF »

And I remember some reviewer referencing goats the dwarves produce out of nowhere, which would be consistent with the idea that their main introduction was cut, but that some later piece remains.
Telemachos
Posts: 45
Joined: Sat Apr 29, 2006 12:18 am
Location: SoCal

Re: The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

Post by Telemachos »

Yes, they do just suddenly show up. My recollection is that I assumed they arrived with Dain's troops.
User avatar
Voronwë the Faithful
At the intersection of here and now
Posts: 46098
Joined: Mon Nov 21, 2005 1:41 am
Contact:

Re: The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

Post by Voronwë the Faithful »

A bunch of TV spots, with quite a bit of footage that I haven't seen before (even Beorn):

http://youtu.be/nT7MVnHj6U0
"Spirits in the shape of hawks and eagles flew ever to and from his halls; and their eyes could see to the depths of the seas, and pierce the hidden caverns beneath the world."
Telemachos
Posts: 45
Joined: Sat Apr 29, 2006 12:18 am
Location: SoCal

Re: The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

Post by Telemachos »

WB has just put out another trailer, this one tying together all 3 Hobbit films into one. It feels very much like a trailer for one single movie, and it's absolutely fantastic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1qNDDf03WY
User avatar
Dave_LF
Wrong within normal parameters
Posts: 6804
Joined: Fri Mar 17, 2006 10:59 am
Location: The other side of Michigan

Re: The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

Post by Dave_LF »

That's pretty cool. Is it an internet-only release just for the fans? Because it seems too long for either a preview or TV. It also doesn't follow the excitement-building ethos that most trailers go with.
Passdagas the Brown
Posts: 3154
Joined: Fri Jun 28, 2013 9:31 pm

Re: The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

Post by Passdagas the Brown »

I like it. Maybe the three will play better as one long, continuous film...
User avatar
Dave_LF
Wrong within normal parameters
Posts: 6804
Joined: Fri Mar 17, 2006 10:59 am
Location: The other side of Michigan

Re: The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

Post by Dave_LF »

There probably is a good single-film fan edit in there. But to do that properly would likely require addition as well as subtraction.
Last edited by Dave_LF on Thu Dec 11, 2014 10:27 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Passdagas the Brown
Posts: 3154
Joined: Fri Jun 28, 2013 9:31 pm

Re: The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

Post by Passdagas the Brown »

Indeed. No huggy wuggy between Bilbo and Thorin at the end of AUJ, for starters.
Passdagas the Brown
Posts: 3154
Joined: Fri Jun 28, 2013 9:31 pm

Re: The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

Post by Passdagas the Brown »

SPOILERS:

Clip of Tauriel taking down some orcs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEeDwUTsM4Q

If you ask me, I think this looks pretty cool.
User avatar
Voronwë the Faithful
At the intersection of here and now
Posts: 46098
Joined: Mon Nov 21, 2005 1:41 am
Contact:

Re: The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

Post by Voronwë the Faithful »

Me too. Sure doesn't look like she is just a 'damsel in distress' in this film, as some have claimed.

---------
Sent from my LG G3 using tapatalk
"Spirits in the shape of hawks and eagles flew ever to and from his halls; and their eyes could see to the depths of the seas, and pierce the hidden caverns beneath the world."
Necromancer Rising
Posts: 106
Joined: Sat Dec 06, 2014 10:17 am
Location: Greece
Contact:

Re: The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

Post by Necromancer Rising »

Agree. We hear and hear so many things and reactions by various folks and i really do not pay much attention either is positive or negative and for a good reason i guess. Really,with this Trilogy the ultimate,best and most accurate judge will be ourselves alone.
User avatar
Voronwë the Faithful
At the intersection of here and now
Posts: 46098
Joined: Mon Nov 21, 2005 1:41 am
Contact:

Re: The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

Post by Voronwë the Faithful »

This requires no comment:

"Spirits in the shape of hawks and eagles flew ever to and from his halls; and their eyes could see to the depths of the seas, and pierce the hidden caverns beneath the world."
Passdagas the Brown
Posts: 3154
Joined: Fri Jun 28, 2013 9:31 pm

Re: The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

Post by Passdagas the Brown »

Colbert interviews Smaug:

http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2014/12 ... gnificent/

My favorite part:

Colbert: Actually, Professor Tolkien said that.
Smaug: Who?
Post Reply