2020 Election: Predictions, Results and Reactions
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You know I have to say, for all its considerable downsides, one of the perks of living in Michigan in 2020 is getting to watch a state government be run by a trio of women who are both quite attractive and actual real-life heroes.
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Who's the third? Gov. Whitner, Attorney General Nessel, and ? Isn't Michigan's Lt. Gov. Garlin Gilchrist a man?
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I had SoS Benson in mind, but I suppose Gilchrist does have that Chidi from The Good Place thing going on.
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Damn, had to Google and you ain't kidding, lolDave_LF wrote:I had SoS Benson in mind, but I suppose Gilchrist does have that Chidi from The Good Place thing going on.
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Nevada has also certified its results.
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The various responses to the Trump campaign's brief in are in. Most are lawyerly and sober, but they all have some place where they address how nuts the appeal is. The best is this, from an organization called Democrats Abroad:
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Is it a common practice to reference Monty Python in legal documents?
If there was anything that depressed him more than his own cynicism, it was that quite often it still wasn't as cynical as real life.
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My mother would probably be happy to talk to you, yov. I can guess they may have similar points of view.yovargas wrote:I wish I could ask Cerin now if she thinks Trump should concede.
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Cerin is still a member. You could PM her and ask her. I hope she reconsiders about posting here.
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Isn't he the one whose family campaigned against him?Frelga wrote:This person is an actual Congressman from Arizona.
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No, I think I can safely say that it is not!Frelga wrote:Is it a common practice to reference Monty Python in legal documents?
Yes. https://www.paysonroundup.com/elections ... 5983d.htmlN.E. Brigand wrote:Isn't he the one whose family campaigned against him?Frelga wrote:This person is an actual Congressman from Arizona.
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The use of the example of post WWII Japanese soldiers is a poor one. They were brain-washed and it's not as if they staged any sort of come-back.
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It's a bizarre analogy. The whole point of the Japanese hold-outs was that they didn't believe Japan could be defeated - they indoctrinated to the point that they couldn't accept reality.RoseMorninStar wrote:The use of the example of post WWII Japanese soldiers is a poor one. They were brain-washed and it's not as if they staged any sort of come-back.
And, as you say, it was an entirely fruitless exercise.
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It fits the pattern of glorifying the losing side of a long-gone battles.
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Not to mention the ultimately defeated big baddies in pop culture (the Death Star, the Kraken, and Thanos all come to mind).
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This is an important article. Long, but important:
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/ ... acy-440475
On a personal note, those who've been reading my posts for decades (!) might remember that I have a thorny relationship with my heritage, but I've never been prouder to be a Dutch guy from West Michigan.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/ ... acy-440475
On a personal note, those who've been reading my posts for decades (!) might remember that I have a thorny relationship with my heritage, but I've never been prouder to be a Dutch guy from West Michigan.
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I just came here to post the same link. It's very good.Dave_LF wrote:This is an important article. Long, but important:
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/ ... acy-440475
On a personal note, those who've been reading my posts for decades (!) might remember that I have a thorny relationship with my heritage, but I've never been prouder to be a Dutch guy from West Michigan.
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I was quietly hoping that courage would break out in the Michigan GOP. Looks like that's what happened...and that poor canvasser is being punished for it. I wonder what will happen to the legislators who went to Washington.
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Great article; thanks for sharing! I really enjoyed reading it, particularly after watching most of that meeting and being so impressed with Van Langevelde.
ETA: I just saw that my new BFF (thanks, River!) Brad Heath is also promoting that article.
ETA: I just saw that my new BFF (thanks, River!) Brad Heath is also promoting that article.
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From a group of law professors who have filed an amicus (friend of the court) brief in the Pennsylvania case (sorry, no Monty Python):
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