The Arda 300

An exhaustive compilation of the characters of Tolkien's legendarium, in order of importance, by Dân o Nandor on Anduin
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Did you know that we have the ability to imbed youtube clips? To do so, the "s" in "https" needs to be removed and the "[media][/media]" tags placed around the url. I think I will go ahead and edit the master list so that they are imbedded there, and if you like, I can edit your posts.

Nice to see Alatar and Lali making the list. And I smiled at the description of Gamling; I had forgotten that little detail.
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Not even sure what you mean, but I'm sure it's good. Go ahead, do good things! Oooga-chukka... :)
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Take a look at the master list.

Edit: The only one that didn't work was the one for Ghân-buri-Ghân. Maybe I can find another link to the video that works.

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#250 Eldarion, 2nd King of the Reunited Kingdom – dúnadan king
[TG:22,EoA:14,Wik:17,RF:3,JT:2,LR:1,H12:4=63pts,11indx.pgs]
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Eldarion
53 of his points come from the 3 online sources. He’s given a face by Jackson, though little is known of him; but he deservingly commences the top-250. And about time we heard from this band…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruyOpJAZGPY

#249 Malach Aradan, 2nd Lord of the Third House – 3rd house adan lord
[TG:19,EoA:7,Wik:1,RF:8,JT:17,Sil:3,H11:8=63pts,12indx.pgs]
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Malach_Aradan
He led some of his people west from Estolad, to settle in Hithlum in the service of Fingolfin, where he learned Sindarin. Malach & his wife Zimrahin were given Sindarin names.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UWRypqz5-o

#248 Haldad, father of Haleth the Hunter – 2nd house adan warrior/leader
[TG:20,EoA:11,Wik:3,RF:6,JT:9,DK:1,Sil:3,H11:10=63pts,13indx.pgs]
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Haldad
The progenitor of the Haladin, the Second House of the Edain, is of course most notable for fathering Haleth, recognized as their first Chieftain.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owfpPuziy08

#247 Azaghâl, Lord of Belegost – dwarf lord
[TG:18,EoA:3,Wik:2,RF:3,JT:7,DK:1,DD:18,Sil:2,CoH:1,UT:4,H4:2,H11:2=63pts,15indx.pgs]
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Azaghâl
Not totally sure why it takes Day’s A-Z to equalize prominent dwarves, animals, & creatures on this list, but it does, and is why this source was included. As for the song, maybe not a top-300 contender, but can’t resist Satchmo, and Azaghâl's weapon of choice…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjDOXUC3rTw

#246 Salmar Noldorin, maker of the Ulumúri – maia minstrel
[TG:18,EoA:4,Wik:4,RF:2,JT:2,MD:1,JG:3,Sil:2,H1:12,B1:3,H:4.H4:4,H5:2,H10:2=63pts,36indx.pgs]
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Salmar
Lirillo was another early name attributed to Salmar, vassal of Ulmo. Garth speculates Tolkien “was perhaps declaring his own literary ambitions as Lirillo, god of song” early on. In a following footnote he states that Tolkien names the 1st half of January Lirillon in honour of his own birthday; the 2nd half, Erintion, in honour of Edith’s Jan 21 birthday (likening her to the Maia Erinti/Ilmarë); and February as Amillion in honour of his brother Hilary’s (likening him to the Maia Ómar/Amillo). Regardless, Salmar is a holdover from earlier times, even though CT included him in his Sil, thus not an asterisked character. (The horns, they're blowin' that sound...)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l54RxRIDvHY

#245 Denethor I, 10th Ruling Steward of Gondor – gondorian dúnadan ruling-steward
[TG:23,EoA:13,Wik:4,RF:4,JT:3,DD:14,LR:1,H12:2=64pts,10indx.pgs]
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Denethor_I
Occasionally marshals, princes, queens, & kings appear here, with little to set them apart. So I defer to Marshall Tucker, Prince, Queen, & the King, Elvis, to supply their song. In the case of a rather nondescript Steward/Stewart, I can either go with Rod or the sixth Stone…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tk-iuq5F68

#244 Tar-Ancalimon, 14th Ruler of Númenor – númenórean king
[TG:14,EoA:21,Wik:3,RF:5,JT:1,LR:1,Sil:2,UT:4,LoE:9,H12:4=64pts,12indx.pgs]
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Tar-Ancalimon
He’s the son of Tar-Atanamir the Great, and “in his time the rift became wider between the King’s Men (the larger part) and those who maintained their friendship with the Eldar”.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KriRo9OM5s

#243 Shagrat – orc captain
[TG:19,EoA:1,Wik:4,RF:6,JT:9,DD:10,LR:3,H8:8,H9:4=64pts,33indx.pgs]
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Shagrat
Gorbag’s last 3 letters in his name lent his song (back at #265), and so shall competitor Shagrat…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWKCqn1ExmQ

#242 Thorin III Stonehelm, King of Durin’s Folk – dwarf king
[TG:29,EoA:7,Wik:3,RF:5,JT:8,DD:12,LR:1=65pts,5indx.pgs]
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Thorin_III
Again we have Day to thank (perhaps because of Durin’s Day), but this son of Dain Ironfoot earns his place.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lu9IQHxsrDU

#241 Tobold ‘Old Toby’ Hornblower – hobbit farmer
[TG:16,EoA:15,Wik:1,RF:4,JT:8,LR:3,H6:2,H8:16=65pts,11indx.pgs]
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Tobold_Hornblower
Ah, so many songs, but I had to choose one…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=341emHqj72I


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*=as in CT's indexing in UT (ie. characters not appearing in Hobbit/LotR/AdvTB/Sil)
@=guest at Bilbo’s Farewell Party
(f)=female (n)=neutral

POINTS - for ENTRIES: TG=Tolkien Gateway,EoA=Encyclopedia of Arda,Wik=Wikipedia,RF=Robert Foster’s Complete Guide to Middle-earth,JT=J.E.A. Tyler’s Tolkien Companion,DD=David Day’s A-Z of Tolkien; for INDICES: LR=Lord of the Rings,Sil=Silmarillion,UT=Unfinished Tales,HX=History of Middle-earth Vol.X,LT=Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien,HC=Humphrey Carpenter’s Biography,JG=John Garth’s Tolkien and the Great War,JR=John Rateliff’s History of The Hobbit,DK=Douglas Kane’s Arda Reconstructed; for both ENTRIES & INDICES: MD=Michael Drout’s Tolkien Encyclopedia; for NAME-LISTS: CoH=Children of Húrin,B1 or B2=the ‘Qenya & Gnomish Lexicons’ from Book of Lost Tales Vols.1&2,FoG=the ‘Fall of Gondolin’ from BoLT Vol.2,LoE=the ‘Line of Elros’ tree & list from UT; MISC: HoF=votes from the Hall of Fire thread that initiated this project + a composite of selected favourite character lists.
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Looks like Azaghâl is another one whose link doesn't work right. But it is still cool to have the videos right there, isn't it?
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This is the most unusual method of making a list I've ever seen! :D
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That's bizarre - I posted, showing how to correct the link that doesn't work, and the post seems to have disappeared.

Did anyone see it before it went AWOL?
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Can you repost?
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What is that you did to fix it?
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See my overly-detailed explanation in the business forum...
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Thanks. Unfortunately, I am beginning to come to the conclusion that so many imbedded youtube files in one thread (in the master list) might be too unwieldy.
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Adding my 2 cents, FWIW, this might be needlessly encumbering the list, which is about the characters after all. The links to songs were intended to be fun, but unobtrusive. The songs become truly classic, and the connections to the characters greatly apply, as we move on. But I hate for it to become a depreciation of what this is about. :)

At any rate, here begins the top 240 characters of Tolkien's legendarium...


#240 Scatha the Worm – cold-drake/long-worm dragon
[TG:18,EoA:10,Wik:7,RF:3,JT:10,JR:2,DD:12,LR:2,H9:2=66pts,12indx.pgs]
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Scatha
3 dragons remain after Scatha. The Cold-drake of Ered Mithrin appeared at the start of the list, as an unnamed/unindexed entity. Likewise, I think I’ll add the old dragon of the poem ‘The Hoard’ to bring the list soon to 1210, for a total of 6 Middle-earth dragons appearing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDr2XwuKEbQ


#239 Finduilas of Dol Amroth (f) – gondorian dúnadan
[TG:20,EoA:1,Wik:8,RF:7,JT:5,MD:1,LR:2,UT:6,H8:2,H9:10,H12:4=66pts,17indx.pgs]
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Finduila ... _Denethor)
I’m not sure what the title of a sister of a Ruling Prince is, nor the wife of a Ruling Steward. However, most women will eventually be classified as either children, wives, or mothers, due to the nature of Tolkien’s world. Nonetheless, this Finduilas died way too young…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pz8GQvn8l2E

#238 Lenwë/Dân, 1st Lord of the Nandor – nando lord
[TG:8,EoA:3,Wik:2,RF:6,JT:10,MD:1,DK:4,Sil:4,H4:8,H5:2,H10:6,H11:10,H12:2=66pts,28indx.pgs]
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Lenw%C3%AB
My namesake is awarded 4pts from Kane due largely to his multiple names. In Arda Reconstructed Kane asks & answers the question: “Denethor’s father is Dân (or Nano) in both the Annals of Aman and the ‘later Quenta’, so where did the name ‘Lenwë’ come from? The answer is, from the essay Quendi and Eldar published in [HoMe11, where CT] confirms in a footnote to that essay that Lenwë replaced the ‘long-standing name Dân of Denethor’s father”.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDC7OP5LAlc

#237 Aerin, wife of Brodda the Easterling – 3rd house adan
[TG:13,EoA:2,Wik:8,RF:4,JT:11,DK:1,Sil:3,CoH:2,UT:6,H2:6,B2:5.H4:2,H5:2,H11:2=67pts,29indx.pgs]
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Aerin
She has a long history, going back to the ‘Lost Tales’, as Airin; and is included in the lexicons, under her Gnomish name Faiglindra ‘long-tressed’, which provides 5 of her points. In the Narn it was added that as Túrin and company fled Brodda’s hall, they looked back and saw the red light. “They have fired the hall”, said Túrin. “To what purpose is that?” “They? No, lord: she, I guess,” said one, Asgon by name. “Many a man of arms misreads patience and quiet. She did much good among us at much cost. Her heart was not faint, and patience will break at the last”.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g42Xg-mAkGg

#236 Elfhelm, Marshal of the East-mark of Rohan – rohirrim marshal
[TG:33,EoA:1,Wik:3,RF:5,JT:10,LR:3,UT:8,H8:4=67pts,32indx.pgs]
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Elfhelm
No word if Elfhelm had a woman that treated him bad, but Marshall Tucker’s best song must accompany the highest ranking marshal..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlc6xCPx60U

#235 Gerontius ‘the Old’ Took, 26th Thain of the Shire – hobbit thain
[TG:24,EoA:2,Wik:2,RF:9,JT:4,MD:2,JR:3,LR:3,UT:6,H6:10,H9:2=67pts,44indx.pgs]
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Gerontius_Took
I think Bob Seger is actually approaching 130yrs old here…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LC591RscJyw

#234 Brytta Léofa, 11th King of Rohan – rohirrim king
[TG:14,EoA:14,Wik:4,RF:6,JT:4,LR:2,H7:4,H8:6,H9:10,H12:4=68pts,10indx.pgs]
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Brytta_L%C3%A9ofa
This king’s name is loosely translated as ‘burning love’…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcJac6OykfM

#233 Silmariën, mother of Valandil 1st Lord of Andúnië (f) – númenórean princess
[TG:31,EoA:3,Wik:3,RF:3,JT:14,DK:1,LR:1,Sil:3,UT:6,LoE:1,H12:2=68pts,16indx.pgs]
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Silmarien
Well, she should have been queen, under other laws. But her heirlooms & progeny survived the fall…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn0_P8w_al4

#232 Thrain I, King of Durin’s Folk – dwarf king
[TG:31,EoA:1,Wik:1,RF:6,JT:5,DD:16,LR:1,UT:4,H7:2,H12:2=69pts,13indx.pgs]
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Thrain_I
When he founded the mighty kingdom-to-be, Erebor, in 1999 T.A., and then discovered his prize, the Arkenstone, a party must have ensued…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jg9jvkaswPQ

#231 Valandil, 3rd King of Arnor – arnorian dúnadan king
[TG:21,EoA:12,Wik:9,RF:6,JT:5,MD:2,LR:2,UT:4,H5:2,H7:2,H12:4=69pts,34indx.pgs]
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Valandil_of_Arnor
As the last surviving son of Isildur, who had to wait 8yrs to be of age for kingship, and then ruled for 239yrs, a reign not matched in the history of either Kingdom, he knew the importance of survival…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBrb0jIR2_8


glossary:

*=as in CT's indexing in UT (ie. characters not appearing in Hobbit/LotR/AdvTB/Sil)
@=guest at Bilbo’s Farewell Party
(f)=female (n)=neutral

POINTS - for ENTRIES: TG=Tolkien Gateway,EoA=Encyclopedia of Arda,Wik=Wikipedia,RF=Robert Foster’s Complete Guide to Middle-earth,JT=J.E.A. Tyler’s Tolkien Companion,DD=David Day’s A-Z of Tolkien; for INDICES: LR=Lord of the Rings,Sil=Silmarillion,UT=Unfinished Tales,HX=History of Middle-earth Vol.X,LT=Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien,HC=Humphrey Carpenter’s Biography,JG=John Garth’s Tolkien and the Great War,JR=John Rateliff’s History of The Hobbit,DK=Douglas Kane’s Arda Reconstructed; for both ENTRIES & INDICES: MD=Michael Drout’s Tolkien Encyclopedia; for NAME-LISTS: CoH=Children of Húrin,B1 or B2=the ‘Qenya & Gnomish Lexicons’ from Book of Lost Tales Vols.1&2,FoG=the ‘Fall of Gondolin’ from BoLT Vol.2,LoE=the ‘Line of Elros’ tree & list from UT; MISC: HoF=votes from the Hall of Fire thread that initiated this project + a composite of selected favourite character lists.
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Dân, I agree completely.

No particular comments about this batch, just that it gets more and more interesting. And that it is easy to guess who the remaining dragons are. ;)

I'll look out for the addition, and work on restoring the youtube links to urls.

Edit: I think I have everything in order now. I will say that I kinda would of expected the Old Took to be higher!
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Aerin is probably my favorite very character who we know that little about.
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Well, I guess the lasting image from the not-so-successful attempt at imbedding is Russ 'Dwarf' Graham's photo-shot imbedded on this thread, along with Jude's dogs, No harm done. :)


#230 Draugluin, lord & sire of the werewolves of Angband – werewolf lord
[TG:12,EoA:2,Wik:4,RF:6,JT:3,MD:1,DD:24,Sil:3,H2:2,H3:6,H4:2,H5:2,H11:2=69pts,38indx.pgs]
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Draugluin
His point from Drout’s Encyclopedia comes from Marjorie Burns’ ‘Old Norse Literature’ entry, in which she likens Thû/Sauron feeding Draugluin the “flesh of Man and Elf” in the Lay of Leithian, to Odin’s feeding his wolves the flesh of the battle fallen. She also notes the effectiveness of the “harsher and more pointed image” in the Lay, than that of the published Silmarillion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1PFz56XWQI

#229 Vairë the Weaver, wife of Mandos (f) – vala queen
[TG:21,EoA:3,Wik:5,RF:5,JT:4,MD:2,DD:9,Sil:2,H1:4,H4:2,H5:4,H10:6,H12:2=69pts,38indx.pgs]
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Vair%C3%AB
She’s the first Vala on this list, and the first of 4 non-Aratar Valier that will appear next. Her 2pts from Drout’s Encyclopedia come from Matthew Dickerson’s entry ‘The Valar’, and Marjorie Burns’ ‘Old Norse Literature’ entry, in which she compares Vairë, “who ‘weaves all things’ into her ‘storied webs’ [to] the three Norse Norns, who are sometimes described as weaving the world’s destiny”.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5WrD-fAzx4

#228 Dorlas of Brethil – 2nd house adan woodman
[TG:13,EoA:2,Wik:7,RF:5,JT:21,Sil:3,CoH:2,UT:6,H2:2,H11:8=69pts,41indx.pgs]
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Dorlas
What can be said of Dorlas, other than he was human. His high-note, I guess, was having a grief-stricken Túrin carried back to his stockade after he relayed the truth to him, and brought him to the grave of Finduilas. But Dorlas subsequently laid into Túrin, and then to his own people, for not doing enough to lead the charge. When it was only Túrin, Hunthor, and him, volunteering to set out to confront Glaurung, father of all dragons, Dorlas eventually ran away and hid in abject fear. Not evil, not deceptive, just suffering from abundant humanity, and perhaps a little ofermode. I’m glad Hunthor appears a few points below. I chose this song over Burton Cummings’ ‘I’m Scared’, not wanting to inundate Canadiana upon all…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-e84upmP3hI

#227 Baragund, companion of Barahir – 1st house adan soldier/outlaw
[TG:18,EoA:4,Wik:1,RF:4,JT:13,DK:1,Sil:3,CoH:1,UT:6,H2:2,H3:4,H4:4,H5:4,H11:4=69pts,48indx.pgs]
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Baragund
His point from Kane’s Arda Reconstructed, in addition to the genealogical family-tree error switch with his brother Belegund, comes from an interesting edit/non-edit that transpired in CT’s Sil. In the 2nd paragraph of chapter 18, CT rightly changed “fifth generation of Men after Bëor” to 6th generation, correcting an error on Tolkien’s part. However, CT admits in HoMe11 that he did not further edit the erroneous follow-up that this 6th generation “were not yet come to full manhood”, as Baragund & Belegund, of that generation, were 35 and 33 years old respectively.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSe6uwKTkpw

#226 Tar-Elendil ‘Parmaitë’, 4th King of Númenor – númenórean king
[TG:26,EoA:2,Wik:6,RF:4,JT:2,DK:1,LR:1,Sil:2,UT:12,LoE:12,H12:2=70pts,16indx.pgs]
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Tar-Elendil
Kane’s point here is due to an omission from the published ‘Akallabêth’ that states “if the later law holding that the oldest child would be heir to the throne regardless of gender – which was adopted when Tar-Ankalimë became the first ruling queen – had been in place earlier, the lords of Andúnië would have held the sceptre, since they were descended from Silmariën, the oldest child of Tar-Elendil”. Maybe if he had a more forceful hand to implement the change centuries earlier, rather than acquiring the nickname Parmaitë (Book-handed), lover of making books, Arda might still be flat!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ege8jJ4ZdeU

#225 Grishnákh – orc captain
[TG:20,EoA:2,Wik:6,RF:9,JT:5,MD:1,DD:19,LR:2,H7:2,H8:2,H12:2=70pts,23indx.pgs]
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Grishn%C3%A1kh
His point from Drout’s Encyclopedia comes from Brian Rosebury’s ‘Race in Tolkien Films’ entry. Thus, admittedly, a fraction of this list is inflated by appearances in various multimedia outlets. Tolkien Gateway even notes role-playing games, and omissions from films (see Haldir below). Rosebury does state the case that Jackson’s Orcs “are more nearly human, and often more European, in appearance than the black, prognathous, red-eyed beasts and ghouls of Bakshi’s” animated version. Having said that, this performance, I think, is a no-brainer…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJzoBmVPeYw

#224 Haldir, marchwarden of Lothlórien – silvan-elf warden
[TG:24,EoA:2,Wik:26,RF:4,JT:2,LR:2,H7:10=pts,70pts,45indx.pgs]
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Haldir_( ... C3%B3rien)
It appears Haldir had a Wikipedia entry which gave him his most points at the time of my initial tabulations. Jackson probably had an influence on this. Wiki does change, as can Tolkien Gateway, and I think this likely. But for perspective, no more than 3 of Haldir’s TG points come from referencing Jackson; while at least 2pts are awarded by TG’s mention of Haldir’s omission from Bakshi’s film and his portrayal in the 1981 radio series by Haydn Wood. At any rate, if this was a Jackson Movie list, Craig Parker’s character would probably make the top 25. As it is, the real thing’s just #224.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdHO-PkwWbw

#223 ’Moneybags’, Master of Lake-town – northman master
[TG:37,EoA:9,Wik:4,RF:9,JT:11,MD:1=71pts,1indx.pg]
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Master_of_Lake-town
50 of his points come from the 3 online sources. Being a Hobbit character, he’s unindexed in anything other than Drout’s Encyclopedia, in which he’s mentioned, not surprisingly, in Hal Colebatch’s entry on ‘[Tolkien &] Capitalism’.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8Fk9EvaUyo

#222 Arveleg I, 8th King of Arthedain – arnorian dúnadan king
[TG:32,EoA:9,Wik:8,RF:9,JT:8,LR:1,H12:4=71pts,8indx.pgs]
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Arveleg_I
As a listed king, he gets most of his points from the standard 7 sources, but is noted most for advancing the frontier, along with ally Cardolan, against Angmar & Rhudaur. The result was a strong 50-year respite in which Weathertop was the occupied tri-border fortress of King Arveleg & the prince of Cardolan (of the red-hill country). However they both succumbed to the Witch-king’s returning forces in T.A. 1409. So, you can do an ‘American Pie’ analysis of these lyrics:
“The black queen chants the funeral march / the cracked brass bell will ring,
To summon back the fire witch / to the court of the crimson king.”
and the other stanzas, including who the yellow jester, the gardener, the pattern juggler, and the purple piper are, if you will... Well, the yellow jester should be obvious...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ty5iRL8eTsg

#221 Hunthor, companion of Túrin Turambar – 2nd house adan
[TG:26,EoA:3,Wik:1,RF:6,JT:3,DK:1,Sil:3,CoH:2,UT:4,H2:2,H11:20=71pts,34indx.pgs each]
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Hunthor
Túrin & Hunthor, being the only 2 companions left after Dorlas bowed out in fear, himself initially chastising the Men of Brethil for declining to embark on the pursuit of Glaurung, leaves only one choice for this song…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmUcvyypAq8


glossary:

*=as in CT's indexing in UT (ie. characters not appearing in Hobbit/LotR/AdvTB/Sil)
@=guest at Bilbo’s Farewell Party
(f)=female (n)=neutral

POINTS - for ENTRIES: TG=Tolkien Gateway,EoA=Encyclopedia of Arda,Wik=Wikipedia,RF=Robert Foster’s Complete Guide to Middle-earth,JT=J.E.A. Tyler’s Tolkien Companion,DD=David Day’s A-Z of Tolkien; for INDICES: LR=Lord of the Rings,Sil=Silmarillion,UT=Unfinished Tales,HX=History of Middle-earth Vol.X,LT=Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien,HC=Humphrey Carpenter’s Biography,JG=John Garth’s Tolkien and the Great War,JR=John Rateliff’s History of The Hobbit,DK=Douglas Kane’s Arda Reconstructed; for both ENTRIES & INDICES: MD=Michael Drout’s Tolkien Encyclopedia; for NAME-LISTS: CoH=Children of Húrin,B1 or B2=the ‘Qenya & Gnomish Lexicons’ from Book of Lost Tales Vols.1&2,FoG=the ‘Fall of Gondolin’ from BoLT Vol.2,LoE=the ‘Line of Elros’ tree & list from UT; MISC: HoF=votes from the Hall of Fire thread that initiated this project + a composite of selected favourite character lists.
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I'm glad that Hunthor ended up higher than Dorlas, although perhaps a little surprised, because I think Dorlas is probably a more important (if less admirable) character.

Edit: I guess I was one update further behind than I thought I was (two behind, rather than one), but now I think I have it caught up, with all of the posts added other than this last one).
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Is "Moneybags" your nickname for the Master, or did Tolkien actually give it somewhere?
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"We will have King Bard!" the people near at hand shouted in reply. "We have had enough of the old men and the money-counters!" And people further off took up the cry: "Up the Bowman, and down with Moneybags," till the clamour echoed along the shore.
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:) That's why VtF is such a great partner for seeing this list through!

No, I try my best not to make anything up! Moneybags is the name, for those who read the books. For those content to watch the movies, well, this list doesn't really apply...
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