The Arda 300

An exhaustive compilation of the characters of Tolkien's legendarium, in order of importance, by Dân o Nandor on Anduin
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Not one, but two appearances of the left-handed genius in this list!

After your comment about Bifur in Jackson's film, I thought you might have gone with this:

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That's brilliant! And as a Floyd fan I should have gone with that, although it would be giving Jackson a little too much credit. And I think we're in territory now that demands songs worthy of top-300 status. But the left-handed master has more to come, believe me... :)
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I have no worries on that count!
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#170 Gothmog, Lieutenant of Morgul – orc lieutenant
[TG:35,EoA:17,Wik:28,RF:4,JT:6,LR:1,Sil:2,B1:1,H2:2,B2:1,H9:2=99pts,3indx.pgs]
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Gothmog_ ... of_Morgul)
As far as what Gothmog was, I’ll let Jackson of all people be the adjudicator here, and classify him as an orc. Anything else, I deem, would be a step too far. An orc master, however, and second only to the highest ranking orc (3 below)…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujwiWjJLwBg

#169 Castamir the Usurper, 22nd King of Gondor – gondorian dúnadan king
[TG:33,EoA:7,Wik:10,RF:14,JT:27,MD:2,LR:2,H12:4=99pts,11indx.pgs]
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Castamir
I almost classified him as a southron usurper, rather than a gondorian dúnadan king, but then thought better of it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEUAzK6pRFY

#168 Lotho ‘Pimple’ Sackville-Baggins @ – hobbit
[TG:22,EoA:13,Wik:2,RF:20,JT:19,LR:5,UT:2,H6:6,H9:10=99pts,62indx.pgs]
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Lotho_Sackville-Baggins
Maybe it’s the pimpled teen thing, but this song just seems to fit…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sqL8dVIG2k

#167 Azog the Goblin – orc chieftain
[TG:34,EoA:17,Wik:3,RF:6,JT:13,DD:17,JR:1,LR:1,UT:4,H7:2,H12:2=100pts,20indx.pgs]
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Azog
With Azog, we begin 100+ point characters. He’s the highest ranking orc, and I don’t think Jackson has a great deal to do with this, with only Tolkien Gateway giving him a few extra points.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4prFmbjZ7M

#166 *Manthor, brother of Hunthor of the Haladin – 2nd house adan lawyer
[TG:69,Wik:25,DK:1,H11:6=101pts,37indx.pgs]
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Manthor
Only 2 asterisked characters remain after him. Manthor’s claim to fame is of course being the saviour of Húrin in the ‘Wanderings of Húrin’. His profession could be that of master, captain, or even, briefly, chieftain, but I can’t resist adding another lawyer to this list, after Sir Gerard Manface of the Notion Club that is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9qrJMTU1O8

#165 Denethor, Lord of the Laiquendi – nando lord
[TG:26,EoA:2,Wik:3,RF:6,JT:27,DK:1,Sil:4,UT:6,H4:6,H5:6,H7:2,H10:6,H11:6=101pts,50indx.pgs]
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Denethor_son_of_Lenwë
The son of my namesake, and lord of the Green-elves of Ossiriand beyond the River Gelion, is not even the highest ranking Nando on this list (see 4 below)…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHkRZ-70SRs

#164 Farmer ‘Muddy-feet’ Maggot, of the Marish – hobbit farmer
[TG:60,EoA:1,Wik:9,RF:9,JT:6,MD:1,LR:2,UT:4,H6:4,H7:2,H9:2,H12:2=102pts,47indx.pgs]
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Farmer_Maggot
This band needs to appear, and muddy water turns to wine…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pN69GC2amTg

#163 Angrod, 2nd son of Finarfin – noldo prince
[TG:22,EoA:14,Wik:4,RF:13,JT:7,DK:1,Sil:3,CoH:2,UT:4,H3:4,H4:8,H5:4,H10:4,H11:4,H12:8=102pts,90indx.pgs]
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Angrod
He’s the grandfather of Gil-galad, and don’t let anyone tell you otherwise. His name loosely translates to ‘Iron Man’…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUK3Fq1Dy6M

#162 Rose ‘Rosie’ Cotton>Gamgee – hobbit
[TG:71,EoA:1,Wik:4,RF:5,JT:6,MD:1,LR:5,H9:10=103pts,29indx.pgs]
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Rosie_Cotton
The majority of her points come from Tolkien Gateway, and she deserves no less of a place than #162.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qFdcHo7Z7w

#161 Saeros/Orgol, counsellor of Doriath – nando counsellor
[TG:32,EoA:3,Wik:10,RF:6,JT:13,DK:2,Sil:3,CoH:2,UT:6,H2:4,H3:4,H4:2,H5:6,H10:2,H11:8=103pts,48indx.pgs]
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Saeros
Saeros, it seems, was an epithet loosely meaning ‘bitter rain’ in Sindarin. CT admits Tolkien intended his name to be Orgol (meaning pride), resembling his previous names, Orleg/Orgof from earlier versions. Yet another mistake that “it seems to me too late now to” fix, says CT.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKgOe1Rl8YY


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*=as in CT's indexing in UT (ie. characters not appearing in Hobbit/LotR/AdvTB/Sil)
@=guest at Bilbo’s Farewell Party
(f)=female (n)=neutral

POINTS - for ENTRIES: TG=Tolkien Gateway,EoA=Encyclopedia of Arda,Wik=Wikipedia,RF=Robert Foster’s Complete Guide to Middle-earth,JT=J.E.A. Tyler’s Tolkien Companion,DD=David Day’s A-Z of Tolkien; for INDICES: LR=Lord of the Rings,Sil=Silmarillion,UT=Unfinished Tales,HX=History of Middle-earth Vol.X,Let=Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien,HC=Humphrey Carpenter’s Biography,JG=John Garth’s Tolkien and the Great War,JR=John Rateliff’s History of The Hobbit,DK=Douglas Kane’s Arda Reconstructed; for both ENTRIES & INDICES: MD=Michael Drout’s Tolkien Encyclopedia; for NAME-LISTS: CoH=Children of Húrin,B1 or B2=the ‘Qenya & Gnomish Lexicons’ from Book of Lost Tales Vols.1&2,FoG=the ‘Fall of Gondolin’ from BoLT Vol.2,LoE=the ‘Line of Elros’ tree & list from UT; MISC: HoF+=votes from the Hall of Fire thread that initiated this project + a composite of selected favourite character lists.
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I love so many of these musical choices, particularly Azog, Rosie Cotton and Saeros.

I have always been a big fan of Manthor, and I agree that "lawyer" is the correct designation.
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Coming from a lawyer, I'll take your word for it, though I wasn't sure it was appropriate. But how about Jackson Browne? :)
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I had not been familiar with that song previously. I thought it was amusing.

The new system of having me add the previous update to the master list is working well, no?
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Haven't been keeping tabs on that lately, but I'm sure, with my many mistakes, that its proving to be necessary. Glad you enjoy the music! 160 great songs to come... and, oh yeah, some important characters too!
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Can't wait!
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#160 Ar-Adûnakhôr, 20th Ruler of Númenor – númenórean king
[TG:23,EoA:14,Wik:3,RF:9,JT:21,LR:3,Sil:3,UT:10,LoE:11,H5:2,H12:6=105pts,15indx.pgs]
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Ar-Ad%C3%BBnakh%C3%B4r
Tar-Herunúmen was his Quenya name, still inscribed in the scrolls out of fear of the Valar. In fact, his Adûnaic name, meaning ‘Lord of the West’ was so blasphemous, I at first included that translation after his name above, then a brief chill of fear came over me, and I removed it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPauXWjY4T8

#159 Helm Hammerhand, 9th King of Rohan – rohirrim king
[TG:26,EoA:10,Wik:9,RF:10,JT:17,DD:19,MD:1,LR:3,UT:4,H8:2,H9:2,H12:2=105pts,27indx.pgs]
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Helm
3 Kings of Rohan remain after Helm.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aO-TM9GA3Tg

#158 Amroth son of Amdír Malgalad, 2nd King of Lórien – sinda king
[TG:28,EoA:14,Wik:4,RF:7,JT:14,DD:15,MD:2,LR:3,UT:8,H7:4,H8:2,H9:2,H12:2=105pts,48indx.pgs]
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Amroth
His father, the first King of Lórien, appeared back at #400. I discard the ephemeral notion that Amroth was a son of Galadriel and Celeborn. Possibly their arrival in Lothlórien, while he was king without a father, meant an adoptive sort of relationship. However, since his beloved, Nimrodel, had no love for High Elves (thus helping to negate the theory that he was a son of Galadriel), and wanted him to take them away to a peaceful haven, the Sinda King Amroth left Lórien to the rule of Celeborn and Galadriel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Bo-Ev7li4w

#157 Tar-Míriel – númenórean queen
[TG:26,EoA:10,Wik:3,RF:8,JT:9,LR:1,Sil:4,UT:10,LoE:5,H5:6,H9:12,H12:12=106pts,27indx.pgs]
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Tar-Míriel
I couldn’t think of an appropriate title for her, so I just went with her name above. The title she should have had, after Royal Princess, was of course Ruling Queen, but such was not the case. Perhaps I could have gone with ‘Last Survivor Upon Númenor’. Helge Fauskanger of Ardalambion has (or once had) a link on his site to an essay he wrote, positing that a Tolkien movie prequel about Númenor would have been a superior alternative to The Hobbit, if only it could have been done. After reading it, I’ve always envisioned the Titanic-like climax as Míriel drowns while scaling Meneltarma. I have to agree with Fauskanger, that the Second Age may be Tolkien’s most powerful story of the 3 Ages, but unfortunately never made it into a novel of its own. (Substitute Nú-menor here for New Orleans…)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYlmofOhnhM

#156 Ori, companion of Thorin Oakenshield – dwarf adventurer/scribe
[TG:60,EoA:3,Wik:2,RF:5,JT:8,DD:11,JR:11,LR:1,H6:2,H7:2,H12:2=107pts,32indx.pgs]
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Ori
His claim of course was writing the last pages of the Book of Mazarbul.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GONmFCkCGCc

#155 & #154 Amrod & Amras, twin youngest sons of Fëanor – noldo princes
[each: TG:35,EoA:4,Wik:7,RF:8,JT:12,DK:4,Sil:2,H2:4,H3:2,H4:6,H5:4,H10:4,H11:6,H12:10=108pts,63indx.pgs]
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Amrod
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Amras
Although these 2 red-haired twins had near identical points (I rounded, to even them up), they had much different fates. Amrod apparently lost his life at Losgar attempting to sail back to his mother Nerdanel, who pleaded for one of her twin sons to remain in Aman, but was denied by Fëanor. (Here, another pioneer makes an appropriate appearance…)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLQZZoAkdig
Unlike his brother, Amras survived to travel the distances of Beleriand, eventually dying in the attack upon the Havens of Sirion. The love between the brothers was said to be great, and their parting must have been tragic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyRjRc0Aqfo

#153 Mablung of the Heavy Hand – sinda captain
[TG:40,EoA:1,Wik:7,RF:10,JT:14,DK:1,Sil:4,CoH:2,UT:6,H2:4,B2:3,H3:4,H4:4,H5:2,H6:2,H11:4=108pts,92indx.pgs]
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Mablung_ ... Heavy_Hand
Well, heavy is the word for this elf of Túrin’s story. It was he who fished out the hand of Beren holding the Silmaril from the body of Carcharoth. And it was Mablung who was entrusted with the care of Morwen on her way to Nargothrond to seek her son. In the end Glaurung, who found Mablung, mocked him but spared his life, informing him he had lost both Morwen and Nienor. Eventually it was Mablung who had to tell Túrin that his wife was actually his sister. (If the Music of the Ainur was a character, I’d have the Abbey Road album be its song; but as it is, only the last song on the 1st side, and the 1st song on the last side, the greatest transition IMO in rock history, will be separated from that masterpiece to make this list. Optimistic & inspirational will appear with a character soon, but for now, dark & heavy…)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZp_-7YUn-s

#152 Old Man Willow – willow-tree/huorn(?)
[TG:15,EoA:4,Wik:9,RF:6,JT:9,MD:54,LR:3,Let:1,H6:6,H7:2=109pts,29indx.pgs]
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Old_Man_Willow
He’s the first to appear that has an entry of his own in Drout’s Encyclopedia, thus accounting for nearly half his points.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Lf0pQoRgFQ

#151 Aegnor, 3rd son of Finarfin – noldo prince
[TG:36,EoA:2,Wik:7,RF:10,JT:13,MD:1,DK:1,Sil:4,UT:4,H3:4,H4:6,H5:4,H10:10,H12:8=110pts,77indx.pgs]
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Aegnor
Ah, the lover of Andreth, denied by a law of the Eldar prohibiting such a thing during time of war; and thus he left for the Dagor Bragollach, and his ‘death’.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUhsA6EAQvQ


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*=as in CT's indexing in UT (ie. characters not appearing in Hobbit/LotR/AdvTB/Sil)
@=guest at Bilbo’s Farewell Party
(f)=female (n)=neutral

POINTS - for ENTRIES: TG=Tolkien Gateway,EoA=Encyclopedia of Arda,Wik=Wikipedia,RF=Robert Foster’s Complete Guide to Middle-earth,JT=J.E.A. Tyler’s Tolkien Companion,DD=David Day’s A-Z of Tolkien; for INDICES: LR=Lord of the Rings,Sil=Silmarillion,UT=Unfinished Tales,HX=History of Middle-earth Vol.X,Let=Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien,HC=Humphrey Carpenter’s Biography,JG=John Garth’s Tolkien and the Great War,JR=John Rateliff’s History of The Hobbit,DK=Douglas Kane’s Arda Reconstructed; for both ENTRIES & INDICES: MD=Michael Drout’s Tolkien Encyclopedia; for NAME-LISTS: CoH=Children of Húrin,B1 or B2=the ‘Qenya & Gnomish Lexicons’ from Book of Lost Tales Vols.1&2,FoG=the ‘Fall of Gondolin’ from BoLT Vol.2,LoE=the ‘Line of Elros’ tree & list from UT; MISC: HoF+=votes from the Hall of Fire thread that initiated this project + a composite of selected favourite character lists.
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The love between the brothers was said to be great, and their parting must have been tragic.
Parting? What parting? I've read the Silmarillion, and I don't remember any parting.

;)

Nice to see you reaching back a little to good ole Nat King Cole!
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This has absolutely nothing to do with this thread, but as we wait for the next installment, since we had posted some good versions of "Stand By Me" earlier in the thread, I give you the transcendent Tracy Chapman:

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Wait no more...

#150 Kili, companion of Thorin Oakenshield – dwarf adventurer
[TG:66,EoA:2,Wik:4,RF:5,JT:3,DD:12,MD:1,JR:15,LR:1,H12:2=111pts,49indx.pgs]
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Kili
Well, the top-eighth of the overall master-list of 1200 begins appropriately with another one of the 13 dwarves of Thorin’s party. He had a blue hood, and played the fiddle, along with Fili. (Musical numbers could have been found to accentuate the latter facts, but I’ll once again use Jackson, and his version of Kili, to squeeze in this classic, that otherwise wouldn’t have a character connection).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uPKcMkH0vw

#149 Tar-Meneldur, 5th King of Númenor – númenórean king
[TG:51,EoA:8,Wik:9,RF:2,JT:8,DK:1,LR:1,UT:14,LoE:11,H12:6=111pts,52indx.pgs]
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Tar_meneldur
As noted in Kane’s Arda Reconstructed (although for reasons of CT's meddling with the name & lineage), Tar-Meneldur was the recipient of the critical letter from Gil-galad, entrusted to Aldarion, Meneldur’s son, which led to his renouncing the Sceptre. The letter warned of the Shadow emerging in Middle-earth, called for whatever aid Númenor could provide, and explained Aldarion’s long absences due to his invaluable service to the High-King of the Noldor in Middle-earth. Tar-Meneldur, who took his name due to his love of star-lore, was King instead of his older sister Silmarien because of the existing Númenórean law. Placed unwittingly in the limelight, he resigned well before his time was due…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWCYUVotD9E

#148 Beregond, Captain of the Guard of the Citadel – gondorian captain
[TG:51,EoA:3,Wik:15,RF:8,JT:7,LR:5,H8:12,H9:4,H12:4,HoF+:2=111pts,66indx.pgs]
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Beregond ... of_Gondor)
“I’m no captain” proclaimed Beregond to Pippin, yet that’s just what Aragorn made him after becoming King. He later served Faramir in Emyn Arnen, which brought him closer to his ancestors home in Ithilien…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78s-ZPr5zAw

#147 Arien Urwendi, Mistress of the Sun (f) – maia
[TG:30,EoA:2,Wik:8,RF:4,JT:3,DD:12,MD:2,DK:2,Sil:2,H1:10,B1:14,H2:2,H4:10,H5:4,H10:6=111pts,67indx.pgs]
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Arien
Back at #153 was Mablung of the Heavy-hand, which inspired the last song of the first side of Abbey Road. Now we flip the record, to the first song of the last side…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Q696HZAo2I

#146 Shadowfax, steed of Gandalf – meara mount
[TG:18,EoA:7,Wik:5,RF:10,JT:7,DD:14,MD:2,HC:1,LR:7,Let:1,UT:6,H7:16,H8:6,H9:4,H12:4,HoF+:3=111pts,104indx.pgs]
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Shadowfax
So, why does the highest ranking horse appear so low here, when 2 Eagles, 2 Canines, 2 Spiders, 2 Dragons, and a bear, whale, & cat (if shape-shifting counts) will yet appear? My guess is that in Tolkien’s world, horses, as great as even the Mearas may be, are still subservient mounts. Some, as in the last few on the list, may push those boundaries in very select episodes, but they remain essentially dependant, unlike the animals that will yet appear.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0QATz8aEAc

#145 Eldacar, 21st King of Gondor – gondorian dúnadan king
[TG:35,EoA:8,Wik:9,RF:18,JT:31,MD:2,LR:3,H12:6=112pts,17indx.pgs]
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Eldacar_(King_of_Gondor)
Eldacar was a king that had tradition, destiny, and public opinion all against him, but succeeded in the end. His enemy was Castamir, Captain of Ships and usurper King, who put Eldacar’s son to death. Eldacar returned, however, and when Castamir attempted to flee, he was killed in the Battle of the Crossings of Erui.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYV6KZpnEak

#144 Lobelia Bracegirdle>Sackville-Baggins (f) @ – hobbit
[TG:33,EoA:2,Wik:3,RF:15,JT:43,MD:2,JR:1,LR:4,H6:6,H7:2,H9:2=113pts,43indx.pgs]
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Lobelia_ ... le-Baggins
Ah, Lobelia! She walked like a woman and talked like a man…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C__CgQlaykI

#143 Eärnil II, 32nd King of Gondor – gondorian dúnadan king
[TG:47,EoA:2,Wik:16,RF:11,JT:29,LR:2,UT:6,H12:4=117pts,28indx.pg]
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Eärnil_II
He was a war-leader, and not of the royal line. Yet when desperate times fell upon Gondor, and the ruling house was all but slain, the royalty and privilege that Arvedui of Arthedain attempted to use in an attempt to become the next King of Gondor, was overruled by the Council and the Steward Pelendur, and Eärnil was awarded the throne.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plj82F4kY7o

#142 Eonwë, herald of Manwë – maia herald
[TG:26,EoA:3,Wik:7,RF:7,JT:3,DD:12,MD:2,DK:1,Sil:3,UT:6,H1:6,B1:8,H4:4,H5:6,H9:2,H10:8,H11:8,H12:6=118pts,115indx.pgs]
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Eönwë
He has been a fixture since the beginning of the mythology. Granted, he gradually morphed from Fionwë, son of Manwë & Varda, to eventually be the steadfast herald of the Gods, leading the Host of Valinor in the War of Wrath. He’s seen it all…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hLK4-JufR8

#141 Voronwë Aranwion of Gondolin – noldo mariner/guide
[TG:18,EoA:9,Wik:12,RF:7,JT:13,DK:1,JG:1,Sil:4,UT:8,H1:4,B1:8,H2:10,H3:4,H4:6,H5:4,H9:4,H11:8=121pts,115indx.pgs]
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Voronwë_of_Gondolin
What can I say?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wU_XCpC6HdE


glossary:

*=as in CT's indexing in UT (ie. characters not appearing in Hobbit/LotR/AdvTB/Sil)
@=guest at Bilbo’s Farewell Party
(f)=female (n)=neutral

POINTS - for ENTRIES: TG=Tolkien Gateway,EoA=Encyclopedia of Arda,Wik=Wikipedia,RF=Robert Foster’s Complete Guide to Middle-earth,JT=J.E.A. Tyler’s Tolkien Companion,DD=David Day’s A-Z of Tolkien; for INDICES: LR=Lord of the Rings,Sil=Silmarillion,UT=Unfinished Tales,HX=History of Middle-earth Vol.X,Let=Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien,HC=Humphrey Carpenter’s Biography,JG=John Garth’s Tolkien and the Great War,JR=John Rateliff’s History of The Hobbit,DK=Douglas Kane’s Arda Reconstructed; for both ENTRIES & INDICES: MD=Michael Drout’s Tolkien Encyclopedia; for NAME-LISTS: CoH=Children of Húrin,B1 or B2=the ‘Qenya & Gnomish Lexicons’ from Book of Lost Tales Vols.1&2,FoG=the ‘Fall of Gondolin’ from BoLT Vol.2,LoE=the ‘Line of Elros’ tree & list from UT; MISC: HoF+=votes from the Hall of Fire thread that initiated this project + a composite of selected favourite character lists.
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:)

ETA: Ariel had to have been the easiest choice yet, no?
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Not that easy, since there are so many classic rock songs referencing the Sun, but yeah, in the end it had to be.

And RIP Ben E. King!
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RIP indeed. :(

Well, I'm enjoying this! And I was delighted to see Fogerty in both this group and the last. Who knew such a big voice would come out of such an unimposing kid as he looked at first? And who knew he had that much energy that many years later??

But it's great seeing the characters at the top of the list. Eagerly awaiting more!
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#140 Óin, companion of Thorin Oakenshield – dwarf adventurer
[TG:55,EoA:2,Wik:1,RF:6,JT:22,DD:13,JR:14,LR:1,H6:4,H7:2,H12:2=122pts,45indx.pgs]
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Oin
All of Thorin’s company are coming in steadily now, each with varying scores, as Fili below will attest. Óin was one of Balin’s companions too, which saw his return to the Misty Mountains…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7joxOe76vCE

#139 Fili, companion of Thorin Oakenshield – dwarf adventurer
[TG:73,EoA:1,Wik:3,RF:5,JT:3,DD:14,MD:1,JR:15,LR:1,UT:4,H12:2=122pts,48indx.pgs]
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Fili
With many other brothers (see below), I slightly rounded some of their scores to align, because they were nearly identical, and the characters essentially belong together. In this case, Fili happens to appear, with dialogue, in UT’s ‘The Quest of Erebor’, unlike Kili (who appeared back at #150). So he gets some added points, despite Jackson’s over-attention on the latter. However, like Kili, he wore a blue hood, accompanied most likely by a blue collar…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0xgDnRD55Q

#138 & #137 Elladan & Elrohir, twin sons of Elrond Half-elven – peredhil rangers
[each: TG:37,EoA:23,Wik:6,RF:8,JT:9,DD:17,MD:1,LR:6,Let:1,H8:6,H9:2,H12:6=122pts,63indx.pgs]
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Elladan
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Elrohir
I classified their occupation as rangers, since those are who they were in the company of, and worked with, most often, at least in LotR. (The titles, not the subjects, of the songs apply...)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQnCVBertf0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxILBWzA0J0

#136 Gildor Inglorion of Rivendell – noldo
[TG:75,EoA:12,Wik:13,RF:4,JT:6,HC:1,LR:2,H6:4,H7:2,H8:2,H12:2=123pts,45indx.pgs]
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Gildor_Inglorion
His home was Rivendell, although he’s not really a part of any Rivendell episodes during LotR.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_2y3_PZdGI

#135 Amandil, 18th and last Lord of Andúnië – númenórean lord
[TG:32,EoA:10,Wik:8,RF:7,JT:34,DK:1,LR:1,Sil:4,UT:4,H5:2,H9:12,H12:8=123pts,45indx.pgs]
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Amandil_ ... Ani%C3%AB)
History recalls how great the fall can be, while everybody's sleeping, the boats put out to sea…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aWDxuhD0FI

#134 Gwindor of Nargothrond – noldo prince
[TG:14,EoA:5,Wik:4,RF:21,JT:26,DK:1,JG:1,Sil:4,CoH:2,UT:4,H2:10,H3:12,H4:12,H5:2,H11:6=124pts,144indx.pgs]
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Gwindor
Like any player appearing in the Túrin-story since the start, Gwindor earns his place, and then some. He witnessed the gruesome slaying of his brother, initiating the Battle of Unnumbered Tears, in which he was captured, and his followers slain. After he escaped 14yrs in Morgoth’s mines, he became the guard and friend of Túrin after his slaying of Beleg, and aided his admittance into Nargothrond. But soon, he heard his beloved Finduilas was seen with Gwindor’s good-time buddy drinkin’ at some crosstown bar...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUvxRjYqjEQ

#133 *Ottor ‘Eriol the Wanderer’ Wǽfre – anglo-saxon mariner
[TG:21,Wik:7,MD:34,JG:7,JR:5,HC:1,H1:10,B1:11,H2:14,H3:2,H4:4,H5:2,H9:2,H10:2,H11:2=124pts,150indx.pgs]
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Eriol
This 2nd-last asterisked character has the most indexed pages so far at 150, which includes Garth, Flieger, Honegger, Smol, Rateliff, Carpenter, and of course CT. Not light company when it comes to the legendarium. When I last presented an early draft of this list, I erringly combined Eriol with Ælfwine of England as one character, and he (they) made the top 100. They clearly are not the same character, given all my criteria - separated by 5 centuries, with completely different frameworks - and neither will crack the top-100 here. As such, I parsed the ‘Ælfwine’ entry in Drout between Eriol and Ælfwine of England, who will appear soon, and did so likewise, as best I could, with all HoMe references. Eriol can be most noted for recording the only full tales of the Fall of Gondolin, and the Ruin of Doriath. When coming upon Tol Eressëa for the first time, he “for many days had wandered its roads… then thought Eriol… ‘The hour of rest is at hand, and though I know not even the name of this fair-seeming town upon a little hill here I will seek rest…’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDkBzkA9L4s

#132 Uinen, Lady of the Seas (f) – maia
[TG:30,EoA:3,Wik:7,RF:9,JT:3,DD:9,MD:2,DK:1,JG:2,Sil:2,UT:4,H1:12,B1:18,H2:8,H3:2,H4:6,H5:2,H10:4,H11:2=126pts,83indx.pgs]
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Uinen
As she, from time to time, undertook the form of a whale, I’m sure her mate, Ossë, did so likewise…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9-42mu1D9Y

#131 Mouth of Sauron, Lieutenant of Barad-dûr – black-númenórean lieutenant/sorcerer
[TG:58,EoA:24,Wik:20,RF:9,JT:7,LR:2,H8:2,H9:2,HoF+:3=127pts,7indx.pgs]
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Mouth_of_Sauron
How he managed to perpetuate his existence without being a Ring-bearer is a matter of debate, although Sauron was no doubt instrumental in the ensuing sorcery. The Mouth, the only name we know him by (other than Mordu, in drafts), was a servant of the Red Eye, and the messenger through the Black Gate…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6d8eKvegLI


glossary:

*=as in CT's indexing in UT (ie. characters not appearing in Hobbit/LotR/AdvTB/Sil)
@=guest at Bilbo’s Farewell Party
(f)=female (n)=neutral

POINTS - for ENTRIES: TG=Tolkien Gateway,EoA=Encyclopedia of Arda,Wik=Wikipedia,RF=Robert Foster’s Complete Guide to Middle-earth,JT=J.E.A. Tyler’s Tolkien Companion,DD=David Day’s A-Z of Tolkien; for INDICES: LR=Lord of the Rings,Sil=Silmarillion,UT=Unfinished Tales,HX=History of Middle-earth Vol.X,Let=Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien,HC=Humphrey Carpenter’s Biography,JG=John Garth’s Tolkien and the Great War,JR=John Rateliff’s History of The Hobbit,DK=Douglas Kane’s Arda Reconstructed; for both ENTRIES & INDICES: MD=Michael Drout’s Tolkien Encyclopedia; for NAME-LISTS: CoH=Children of Húrin,B1 or B2=the ‘Qenya & Gnomish Lexicons’ from Book of Lost Tales Vols.1&2,FoG=the ‘Fall of Gondolin’ from BoLT Vol.2,LoE=the ‘Line of Elros’ tree & list from UT; MISC: HoF+=votes from the Hall of Fire thread that initiated this project + a composite of selected favourite character lists.
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Nice to see the Allman's make an appearance here. As for Eriol/Ælfwine, clearly that was the right call.
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First Ben E., now B.B., R.I.P!

(And as music deaths seem to come in threes, and Albert, Freddie, and King Curtis are all long gone, if I were Carole, I’d check myself into a hospice soon). I do honour the legend with the 3rd King appearing below...


#130 Tar-Palantir, 24th King of Númenor – númenórean king
[TG:27,EoA:11,Wik:5,RF:10,JT:12,LR:3,Sil:5,UT:16,LoE:32,H12:6=127pts,16indx.pgs]
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Tar-Palantir
He attempted major changes, in line with the Faithful allegiance of his mother, but by his time, the Elves, the West, and the Valar had all but forsaken Númenor, and Tar-Palantir left the sceptre to his daughter upon his death.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sg6xaFZStEI

#129 Galdor the Tall, 6th Lord of the 3rd House – 3rd house adan lord
[TG:26,EoA:14,Wik:1,RF:7,JT:18,DK:2,Sil:3,CoH:2,UT:6,H3:8,H4:8,H5:10,H6:4,H11:18=127pts,101indx.pgs]
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Galdor_of_Dor-l%C3%B3min
As eldest son of Hador Goldenhead, and participant in the ‘double marriage’ of he and Hareth, & sister Glóredhel ‘the Golden’ and Haldir, the 2 latter of the Haladin, at the great feast; the following years, until the Fell Year of 455 and the Battle of Sudden Flame, must have been considered the golden years of the Edain…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3RNJ0_hTew

#128 Hamfast ‘Gaffer’ Gamgee, gardener of Bag-End – hobbit gardener
[TG:47,EoA:11,Wik:4,RF:12,JT:22,MD:3,HC:1,LR:8,UT:10,H6:4,H7:2,H8:2,H9:2=128pts,85indx.pgs]
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Gaffer_Gamgee
His son will no doubt finish much closer to the top, but the Gaffer certainly deserves his placing here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_LZ8LKM_vs

#127 Tar-Aldarion ‘The Mariner’, 6th King of Númenor – númenórean king
[TG:44,EoA:9,Wik:27,RF:5,JT:4,LR:1,UT:16,LoE:17,H12:6=129pts,77indx.pgs]
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Tar-Aldarion
His main claim-to-fame, amongst others, was changing Númenórean law, which would see his daughter inherit the sceptre. (When Erendis appeared back at #200, I declared her corresponding classic-rock song to be representative of that which she may have ultimately desired, rather than alternatives possibly inspiring a heated gender debate. The same goes here for Anardil…)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wvIU4EmRJI

#126 Thrór, grandfather of Thorin Oakenshield – dwarf king
[TG:49,EoA:3,Wik:2,RF:8,JT:19,HC:1,MD:1,JR:22,LR:2,UT:6,H6:4,H7:4,H8:2,H9:2,H12:4=129pts,92indx.pgs]
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Thror
A cold-drake killed his father & brother in the Grey Mts, to which he led his people back to Erebor where he became ‘King under the Mountain’ and his other brother went on to found the realm of the Iron Hills. Thrór befriended the Northmen who founded Dale, and all were prosperous until Smaug came, in which the King and kin fled to Dunland. His last move was to attempt to reclaim Moria. It was his Ring, along with his map & key to the Lonely Mountain, displaying the places he remembered, which he left to his son Thráin…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-m6Kx0a6QEU

#125 Dwalin, companion of Thorin Oakenshield – dwarf adventurer
[TG:74,EoA:9,Wik:2,RF:5,JT:5,DD:13,JR:17,LR:1,H6:2,H12:2=130pts,38indx.pgs]
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Dwalin
He was the first dwarf to arrive at Bilbo’s door that fateful day, but Dwalin kept the reason he came calling, and the journey upon which the hobbit was to embark, a mystery until all had arrived…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hnrsqf33MXA

#124 Bofur, companion of Thorin Oakenshield – dwarf adventurer
[TG:70,EoA:25,Wik:1,RF:4,JT:2,DD:13,JR:13,LR:1,H6:2,H12:2=133pts,27indx.pgs]
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Bofur
He was in the tree in the wolves’ glade with cousin Bifur, brother Bombur, and Thorin; and in Mirkwood he helped prop Bombur out of the spiders’ webbing: both jungle-type situations which could have seen him wounded and not even dead. Bofur played the clarinet, and clarinetist Adolphe Sax invented the related instrument to which he gave his name...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIFpapdaMvw

#123 Mîm the Fatherless – petty-dwarf
[TG:28,EoA:1,Wik:11,RF:10,JT:26,DD:22,JR:5,DK:1,Sil:4,CoH:1,UT:8,H2:6,H3:2,H4:2,H5:2,H11:2,H12:2=133pts,87indx.pgs]
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Mîm
His sons Ibun & Khîm appeared back in the 500’s. This Petty-dwarf broke down many times after his meeting with Túrin’s company, especially with the death of Khîm.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1cm0QJ9MSo

#122 Rómendacil II, 19th King of Gondor – gondorian dúnadan king
[TG:26,EoA:35,Wik:8,RF:14,JT:29,MD:1,LR:3,UT:10,H12:8=134pts,13indx.pgs]
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Romendacil_II
He expanded Gondor’s realm east of the Sea of Rhûn, built the Pillars of the Argonath, and befriended King Vidugavia of the Northmen unwittingly leading to the Kin-strife. (Left with no clear song choice for this King, the recent passing of the King of the river-blues, and his teaming up with one of northeastern stock, became the obvious choice…)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiadWnUH_7I

#121 Irmo Lórien, Olofantur, Master of Dreams – vala master
[TG:31,EoA:4,Wik:7,RF:8,JT:2,MD:1,DK:2,JG:2,Sil:5,UT:18,H1:10,H2:2,H3:6,H4:8,H5:8,H10:18,H11:6=138pts,136indx.pgs]
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Lórien_the_Vala
This lesser of the brothers Fëanturi is the 2nd-last non-Aratar vala that will appear.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_W7wqQwa-TU


glossary:

*=as in CT's indexing in UT (ie. characters not appearing in Hobbit/LotR/AdvTB/Sil)
@=guest at Bilbo’s Farewell Party
(f)=female (n)=neutral

POINTS - for ENTRIES: TG=Tolkien Gateway,EoA=Encyclopedia of Arda,Wik=Wikipedia,RF=Robert Foster’s Complete Guide to Middle-earth,JT=J.E.A. Tyler’s Tolkien Companion,DD=David Day’s A-Z of Tolkien; for INDICES: LR=Lord of the Rings,Sil=Silmarillion,UT=Unfinished Tales,HX=History of Middle-earth Vol.X,Let=Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien,HC=Humphrey Carpenter’s Biography,JG=John Garth’s Tolkien and the Great War,JR=John Rateliff’s History of The Hobbit,DK=Douglas Kane’s Arda Reconstructed; for both ENTRIES & INDICES: MD=Michael Drout’s Tolkien Encyclopedia; for NAME-LISTS: CoH=Children of Húrin,B1 or B2=the ‘Qenya & Gnomish Lexicons’ from Book of Lost Tales Vols.1&2,FoG=the ‘Fall of Gondolin’ from BoLT Vol.2,LoE=the ‘Line of Elros’ tree & list from UT; MISC: HoF+=votes from the Hall of Fire thread that initiated this project + a composite of selected favourite character lists.
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So happy that you managed to find a way to include the great Riley B. King in today's list. I also found the choices for Tar-Palantir and the Gaffer particularly apt.
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