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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 11:51 pm 
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 11:32 pm 
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Was this Bilbo, instructing Frodo to take notes during his journey?

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 3:20 pm 
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 4:02 pm 
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Just bringing it onto the current page:

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Most of the stuff again, collect and share those details.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 4:54 pm 
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Flotsam and jetsam chapter?

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‘There’s no greys, only white that’s got grubby. I’m surprised you don’t know that. And sin, young man, is when you treat people as things. Including yourself. That’s what sin is.’
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:05 pm 
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Is it Hob Hayward: "They do more gathering than sharing, and we never see most of the stuff again."

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 3:36 pm 
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Voronwë has it! Pretty good guess from a very obscure source!

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 4:13 pm 
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Well, that's what V *does*

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 6:41 pm 
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I heard that in Moriarty voice.

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‘There’s no greys, only white that’s got grubby. I’m surprised you don’t know that. And sin, young man, is when you treat people as things. Including yourself. That’s what sin is.’
‘It’s a lot more complicated than that -’
‘No. It ain’t. When people say things are a lot more complicated than that, they means they’re getting worried that they won’t like the truth. People as things, that’s where it starts.’
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 10:30 pm 
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I must say, this retains little resemblance to the original quote, which to narrow things down from the start, is from The Hobbit.

He was not available. Here, he leaves may mess.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 11:08 pm 
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In the original, is "leaves" in the sense of "depart", or things that are found on trees? (assuming that the word is actually in the original)

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 4:09 am 
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The former (although in the original it is 'leave' not 'leaves'). Good job focusing in on one of the few words that remained (mostly) unchanged.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 1:14 pm 
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I think another hint is needed...

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 2:50 pm 
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The "leaves" refers to the speaker threatening to leave them if the listeners don't help him do something.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 3:02 pm 
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Is it Gandalf?

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 3:06 pm 
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 1:48 pm 
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Is it Gandalf to the Dwarves regarding Bilbo? (what was JRRT's preference: Dwarfs or Dwarves? I always forget)

Or is it sometime before the Battle of the Five Armies?

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Yes, it is Gandalf to the Dwarves about Bilbo. And yes it is some time well before the Battle of Five Armies.

(When the original copyeditor "fixed" all of the occurrence of the word "Dwarves" to "Dwarfs" Tolkien was furious. However, he noted that the correct plural should really be "Dwarrows" but that that would have been too confusing. He does use that form in the name "Dwarrowdelf" for Moria.)

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 3:04 pm 
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Okay - so it is what I think it is. But I don't have my book with me right now....

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(That was one nervy copyeditor!)

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