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Unfortunately there seems like there is nothing Sam can do. The wolf is in the house of the United States and there seems to be no escape.
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;)
"Spirits in the shape of hawks and eagles flew ever to and from his halls; and their eyes could see to the depths of the seas, and pierce the hidden caverns beneath the world."
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Is the word "Enemy" found in the quote?
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No.

And here is the translation again so it is on this page:

Sam! have a chance of getting the United States to escape the Wolf in his house.

Despite the presence of "the United States" the word "us" does not appear in the original quote (but it did appear in intermediate translations, which is why the United States ended up in the final translation). I will say that "Sam!" is not a translation; it is in the original.
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Spoken by Frodo?
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No

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Spoken by Sam to himself?
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Didn't he usually call himself "Ninnyhammer"?
“There, peeping among the cloud-wrack above a dark tor high up in the mountains, Sam saw a white star twinkle for a while. The beauty of it smote his heart, as he looked up out of the forsaken land, and hope returned to him. For like a shaft, clear and cold, the thought pierced him that in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach.”
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Jude wrote:Spoken by Sam to himself?
No (but it is spoken to Sam).
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Spoken by Gandalf?
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Or spoken at Crickhollow?
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Yes to Inanna. No to Jude.
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Spoken at BagEnd?
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No. Later.
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Oh, so its not the "Get up, Sam!" quote... I can't think of any other.
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Is the "Sam!" part an entire sentence on its own?
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No, there is one additional word in the sentence.
"Spirits in the shape of hawks and eagles flew ever to and from his halls; and their eyes could see to the depths of the seas, and pierce the hidden caverns beneath the world."
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Oh, there's "Wolf" in the quote. After the wolves' attack on the Fellowship?
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"There, Sam! He will have quite as much chance of escaping wolves and getting home as we have."

Spoken about Bill the Pony outside the gates of Moria.
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Yup!
"Spirits in the shape of hawks and eagles flew ever to and from his halls; and their eyes could see to the depths of the seas, and pierce the hidden caverns beneath the world."
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