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From the Hobbit?
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Earlier.

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"Spirits in the shape of hawks and eagles flew ever to and from his halls; and their eyes could see to the depths of the seas, and pierce the hidden caverns beneath the world."
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From the Second Age?
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Still earlier
"Spirits in the shape of hawks and eagles flew ever to and from his halls; and their eyes could see to the depths of the seas, and pierce the hidden caverns beneath the world."
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The quote has “beast” in it? Am guessing, yes. Tolkien liked that word.
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Yes and know. "Beast" does appear but it is not the full word.

Here is the quote on the new page.
Voronwë the Faithful wrote:And these people are fly of trees and beast hunters. So we are their friends and if they don't leave, we'll get them in the best way we can.
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Is the original "beasts"? As in, "hunters of beasts"?
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Yes. And yes. :)
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Is this Yavanna and Aulë talking about the creation of the Ents?
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Nope!

Later than that.
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Is it to do with Melkor?
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Is the speaker disparaging the people he's describing?

Edit: or the people she's describing
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Inanna wrote:Is it to do with Melkor?
Only in a very indirect way.
Jude wrote:Is the speaker disparaging the people he's describing?

Edit: or the people she's describing
The actual individual speaker is not identified (it is a group that is quoted). And yes, I would say that they are disparaging the people they are describing, and are definitely not happy with them, and will add that one of the words in the original is the exact opposite of the word used in the translation.
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So, not “friends”...
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Correct (with the caveat that "friends" is included in the word).
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Unfriends? :shock:

Is it a screenshot from Melkor's facebook page?
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Yes to "unfriends". No, to the Facebook page. :P
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Okay, I think I found it:
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Amusing as that is, no that is not it.
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I don't have a guess, I'd just have to re-read the whole book at this point, but this tickles some little memory in my head about some army or group discussing going into a wooded land that was inhabited, and take it. I don't recall if these were men or elves on either side, but it does sound passingly familiar...
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