Desolation of Smaug trailers (SPOILERS)

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Smaug's voice wrote:
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is, if that were really true, HFR would've taken over as the format of
choice a long time ago, just like CDs clearly took over LPs. But they
didn't.
If you'd said that LPs would be extinct today at *that* time, you'd have been considered a fool.
But LP's are not extinct today. Many bands are releasing their new music on LP format, because it still is as good as CD. Personally I prefer the tone of something on vinyl compared to the sterile sound of CD.
If your going to adapt a story you love WHY change it into something else? I truly am curious about that.
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The interesting thing is, the "Benny Hill effect" is created not by speeding the film up, but by dropping frames. Since a fairly large number of people used that exact comparison, it makes me think that some individual projectors have or had technical issues that caused frames to be dropped, or that they had trouble maintaining an even framerate. An alternative explanation is that some brains or eyes do essentially the same thing.
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Hmmm? I would be tempted to latch on to that as an explanation, but I'm not sure that it would stand up to scrutiny. The test would be whether the majority of people at certain showings all experienced problems, or whether the issue was fairly evenly distributed between showings.
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Brazilian TV spot (the very beginning looks new):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Li5FTIbUvwk
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That first shot of Laketown in the early morning has people huddled on a bridge, and other large crowds strewn throughout the city, looking towards...something.

Might this be a "dragon is coming" scene, from the very end of the film?
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I didn't dare think that.
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Why not?
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I want Smaug killed in this film, and most signs seemed to be pointing the opposite direction. If it really is a dragon is coming scene, it would suggest that the Laketown battle will happen in this film.
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Voronwë the Faithful wrote:I want Smaug killed in this film.
:( :( Why me?
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:hug:
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Perhaps his voice (and eye) will live on... ;)
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:rage:
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Smauron cometh! :bow:

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Voronwë the Faithful wrote:Hmmm? I would be tempted to latch on to that as an explanation, but I'm not sure that it would stand up to scrutiny. The test would be whether the majority of people at certain showings all experienced problems, or whether the issue was fairly evenly distributed between showings.
That is quite true. Is there anyone here who got the Benny Hill effect from HFR? Do you also get it from the trailers linked upthread?
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I got the effect for the whole film (in HFR, of course) at a cinema in Virginia.
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And does the online HFR trailer do the same thing?
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Dave_LF wrote:And does the online HFR trailer do the same thing?
Yes, precisely the same effect.
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That's surprising to me. With 3d, for example, there is a "trick" to seeing the effect, and it's not particularly unexpected to learn that different people get different results when they perform that trick. But HFR just means more information density. I wouldn't have predicted that there would be any significant difference in individual perceptions of it (though of course tastes will vary and some people will like the effect more than others), but there it is.
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Which HFR trailer are you referring to?
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There have already been a lot of posts since then, but here it is:
Dave_LF wrote:Software interpolated HFR, I should mention, but it still looks pretty close to the real thing (for my money) and certainly gives you an accurate impression of the difference if you've never seen it.

ETA: And here is that link:
http://www.hfrmovies.com/high-frame-rat ... le-videos/
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