There and Back Again Anticipation thread [SPOILERS]

Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:16 pm

[Note: I combined this thread with the TABA hopes and fears thread that I also started]

Yes, I did it, despite the fact that the second film hasn't even been released yet, rather than post this in the general thread. Seems like an odd thing to do to promote the second film, but it definitely gets the juices flowing for the final chapter:

Peter Jackson & The Hobbit cast on There & Back Again

SV, I don't think that you will have to ask about what the "emotional high" moments will be in that film! I just hope that Jackson and crew don't blow it.

Wed Dec 11, 2013 10:21 pm

You and I both know that Thorin will be killed while riding on Beorn's back, Fili will be killed while swinging from a chain tied to an eagle claw, and Kili will die of a broken heart when Tauriel smooches Legolas on the battlefield. Start embracing it now.

Wed Dec 11, 2013 10:26 pm

No, you've got that wrong. It is Tauriel who dies of a broken heart when Kili smooches Leggy on the battlefield. Get your fact right!

Post by **Dave_LF** » Wed Dec 11, 2013 10:31 pm

Or is it Tolkien fandom that dies of a broken heart after realizing it's all over and team Jackson will have no further opportunities to fix all those things everyone kept saying would be taken care of in the next installment?

Wed Dec 11, 2013 10:32 pm

Voronwë the Faithful wrote:No, you've got that wrong. It is Tauriel who dies of a broken heart when Kili smooches Leggy on the battlefield. Get your fact right!

My apologies. You are, of course, correct.

Based on recent reports, it looks like Kili will be killed by a zombie Smaug (necromanced by Sauron), who shoots a ghoulish green scrubbing bubble substance out of his mouth.

Wed Dec 11, 2013 10:34 pm

Maybe I should rename this thread "keeping the expectations for There and Back Again as low as possible!!!!11"

Although in all seriousness, I have very high hopes for this film. Which may or may not change after Friday.

Wed Dec 11, 2013 10:35 pm

Honestly, I feel like skipping over DOS and going straight to TABA.

Wed Dec 11, 2013 10:46 pm

The comments in that video are encouraging. But it is early days yet. I'm sure Jackson will come up with something that will drive (most of) us crazy.

Edit: Besides, if nothing else, we get Bilbo and Smaug. That by itself will be worth the price of admission for me. And I think there will be plenty of other worthwhiles as well.

Post by **Elentári** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 2:50 pm

Sir Christopher Lee gives us hints about his presence in TABA in his annual Christmas Message...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... _5bg#t=419

from 6:45 onwards...I do so hope this wonderful man is still with us to see the film released next year.

Thu Dec 12, 2013 4:21 pm

Wow, that sounds fantastic! Jackson better not leave him to the EE!!!

Love the hat!

Post by **Alatar** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 5:04 pm

Making Cinema history again! I'll drink to that!

Thu Dec 12, 2013 5:08 pm

Post by **Smaug's voice** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:16 pm

I am guessing the Beorn-flashback was moved to the EE?

Post by **sauronsfinger** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:16 pm

Elentári wrote:Sir Christopher Lee gives us hints about his presence in TABA in his annual Christmas Message...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... _5bg#t=419

from 6:45 onwards...I do so hope this wonderful man is still with us to see the film released next year.

WOW Elen!!! Thanks a bunch for that. It is very very hopeful. I am so glad that Lee was around to make this second trilogy and I share your hope he sees this next year.

And that hat!!!!!

Post by **Dave_LF** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:18 pm

Smaug's voice wrote:I am guessing the Beorn-flashback was moved to the EE?

Was there every any solid evidence that such a thing was even filmed? All I remember is a badly-translated Swedish article where it wasn't clear whether he said his character was tortured in some scene or that filming some scene was like torture.

Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:28 pm

Honestly, I hope the whole thing either never was filmed, or was discarded. I dislike the idea quite a bit.

Post by **Passdagas the Brown** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:41 pm

Elentári wrote:Sir Christopher Lee gives us hints about his presence in TABA in his annual Christmas Message...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... _5bg#t=419

from 6:45 onwards...I do so hope this wonderful man is still with us to see the film released next year.

Such a wonderful man. Reminds me of my great uncle.

Did he imply that Saruman will be engaging in swordplay?

Post by **Passdagas the Brown** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:42 pm

Dave_LF wrote:
Smaug's voice wrote:I am guessing the Beorn-flashback was moved to the EE?
Was there every any solid evidence that such a thing was even filmed? All I remember is a badly-translated Swedish article where it wasn't clear whether he said his character was tortured in some scene or that filming some scene was like torture.

He was quoted as saying he was in a "torture" scene, where he was strapped into something and...IIRC...hoisted up near the ceiling?

Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:59 pm

Passdagas the Brown wrote:
Elentári wrote:Sir Christopher Lee gives us hints about his presence in TABA in his annual Christmas Message...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... _5bg#t=419

from 6:45 onwards...I do so hope this wonderful man is still with us to see the film released next year.
Such a wonderful man. Reminds me of my great uncle.

Did he imply that Saruman will be engaging in swordplay?

It seemed like he implied that, but I'm not convinced. But he was very explicit about Saruman showing kindness to both Gandalf and Galadriel, and that his part is quite large. Of course, who knows what Jackson will do with it in the cutting room.

PtB, you are lucky to have such a great uncle!

Post by **Passdagas the Brown** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 8:03 pm

Thanks! Though he passed away a few years ago, he had that same mix of authority and gleeful mischief that Lee has. Just a joy to be around.