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 Post subject: Re: Gun Control Debate
PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 4:13 am 
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The gun lobby in Australia has learned from the success of the US gun lobby, and is now quietly supporting political candidates through financial donations and advertising, without any mention of fireatms anywhere.
Stealth and subterfuge.

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 Post subject: Re: Gun Control Debate
PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 6:23 am 
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I'm sorry to hear that, Impy. :(

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 Post subject: Re: Gun Control Debate
PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 8:43 pm 
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:nono: My state.... :nono:

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Bill would require some Missourians to own an AR-15


https://www.komu.com/news/bill-would-re ... n-an-ar-15

There's no way it'll pass, but this is embarrassing. :oops:


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 Post subject: Re: Gun Control Debate
PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:43 pm 
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Maria wrote:
:nono: My state.... :nono:

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Bill would require some Missourians to own an AR-15


https://www.komu.com/news/bill-would-re ... n-an-ar-15

There's no way it'll pass, but this is embarrassing. :oops:


Remember: you need to own a gun, but only the 'right people' should be allowed to vote. :nono:

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 Post subject: Re: Gun Control Debate
PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 4:57 am 
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We're in New Zealand at the moment, not in Christchurch (we were there last week). The difference in news coverage of this tragedy isi interesting. I'm still taking it all in. The last mass shooting/murder in New Zealand was in the 1990's. The desensitization in the US and acceptance of gun violence should be more shocking and unacceptable


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 Post subject: Re: Gun Control Debate
PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 1:55 pm 
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Maria wrote:
:nono: My state.... :nono:

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Bill would require some Missourians to own an AR-15


https://www.komu.com/news/bill-would-re ... n-an-ar-15

There's no way it'll pass, but this is embarrassing. :oops:
https://splinternews.com/lawmaker-my-gun-bills-are-a-total-scam-1833326426
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“I merely planned for media to write about it but would ultimately amend it to take out the mandates and requirements (age and type of gun) and turn it into a gun tax credit bill,” McDaniel told Splinter in an email.

Essentially, McDaniel just wanted the press to give his insane-sounding legislation a signal boost so his slightly less insane proposal—the tax credits—gets some free press. Missouri, by the way, boasts the seventh-highest rate of gun violence in the country, which costs residents an estimated $1.9 billion dollars each year. Nevertheless, McDaniel has decided his time as an elected official is best spent trolling the people in his state.

It’s not very often that a politician makes it so clear just how full of shit they are.


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 Post subject: Re: Gun Control Debate
PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 4:17 pm 
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Meanwhile New Zealand decided not to go with the "thoughts and prayers" approach, presumably after examining its track record in the US.

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BREAKING: New Zealand bans military-style semi-automatics and assault rifles https://t.co/U27HSuxday

LIVE: New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern says expectation law will be in place by April 11 https://t.co/CP3Kw38g7C

MORE: New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern says buy-back scheme will be established for banned weapons https://t.co/ua0OgTEO9J https://t.co/JtUTDTiKci

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 Post subject: Re: Gun Control Debate
PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 6:15 pm 
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Frelga wrote:
Meanwhile New Zealand decided not to go with the "thoughts and prayers" approach, presumably after examining its track record in the US.

Heh.

I find the 'Christian Right' and guns odd bedfellows, but they seem quite comfortable with it.


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 Post subject: Re: Gun Control Debate
PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 6:20 pm 
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I have no problem with "thoughts and prayers" so long as they are not substituted for real, effective steps like banning military-style semi-automatics and assault rifles. The two are not mutually exclusive.

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 Post subject: Re: Gun Control Debate
PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 6:35 pm 
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Voronwë the Faithful wrote:
I have no problem with "thoughts and prayers" so long as they are not substituted for real, effective steps like banning military-style semi-automatics and assault rifles. The two are not mutually exclusive.


No, there is nothing wrong with thoughts and prayers but it has become something of a joke, hasn't it? It rings hollow. Lip service. An excuse for inaction.

Abert Einstein is widely credited with saying, “The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results.”


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 Post subject: Re: Gun Control Debate
PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 6:59 pm 
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Thoughts and prayers have their place and it is not in the government policy.

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 Post subject: Re: Gun Control Debate
PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 8:28 pm 
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The measure will need to go before Parliament, and it's been scheduled for April 11. It seems to have cross-party support, although the National Party (which represents a more rural and conservative constituency) will probably have something to say on the details. But it's expected to pass.


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 Post subject: Re: Gun Control Debate
PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 2:12 pm 
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Today, I learned that in New Zealand the ACC provides for victims of accidental death or injury, including funeral costs and financial support for victims and survivors of Christchurch terrorist attack. The Twitter thread is an instructive contrast between the Americans in shock, and New Zealanders politely wondering what's wrong with Americans.

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 Post subject: Re: Gun Control Debate
PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 5:42 pm 
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We were in New Zealand at the time of the shooting. Everything about the response, news coverage, etc.. was very different than what takes place here. It's sad.


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 Post subject: Re: Gun Control Debate
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Mark Ruffalo called it "prayers and action".

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