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Gimli to Legolas, when they met the old man in outskirts of Fangorn Forest that they were sure was out to do them in, but Legolas could not shoot him with his bow:
‘Why are you waiting? What is the matter with you?’
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That's the one! Your turn!
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The grace of the king is certainly wonderful. But if our words aren't enough, we swear to you.
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Is it connected with Ghân-buri-Ghân?
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Much earlier.
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Was it spoken during the First Age?
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Indeed it was!
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At the time of speaking, does Morgoth possess all three Silmarils?
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I had to check the Grey Annals to answer that question. The answer is yes, but less than ten years later the answer would be no.
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Ten years is a short time in Silmarillion-scale :D
The King's grace is great indeed: but if our word is not enough, then we will swear oaths to you.
Húrin to Maeglin (the king mentioned being Turgon)
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You got it! Well done.

I was pretty sure that Húrin's and Huor's sojourn in Gondolin ended before Beren and Lúthien were able to wrest the Silmaril from Morgoth's crown (it definitely is mentioned first in the Silmarillion narrative) , but I knew that it was all jumbled up in the time period after the Ruin of Beleriand and the Fall of Fingolfin. Based on the Annals, Húrin and Huor left Gondolin in the year 458 of the Sun (or perhaps 459), Beren became an outlaw in 460, he entered Doriath and met Lúthien in 464, and they were able to obtain the Silmaril in 466.
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This one should be easy:
Then it's yours, not mine!
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Frodo to Aragorn about the Ring?
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Yes! Can you provide the exact quote?
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Um. Now I need to remember where it is. In Rivendell, probably. Please don't tell me I have to read through the Council of Elrond. I've been in too many Zoom meetings like that.
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'You just said "your getting shorter": you've obviously been drinking too much ent-draught and not enough Prim's.' - Jude
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