The Hobbit: BotFA Trailer discussion with SPOILERS

[Voronwë the Faithful]

I love this shot:

https://heirsofdurin.files.wordpress.co ... 027819.jpg

I'm tempted to tease you by saying that it is clearly "phoned in" CGI, but I like it myself too much to do so.

I think these orcs look closest to how Tolkien described most of them. With more of a simian physiology (long arms, short legs, etc):

https://heirsofdurin.files.wordpress.co ... 124249.jpg

Yup. It's taken almost 15 years, and 6 films, but Jackson might have finally figured out how to get the Orcs right.

[Frelga]

Huh. I still like the Uruk-hai best. Besides, what are these orcs? Something out of Dol Guldur? They are not goblins from the mountain.
P.S.: and the Warg-riders of Orthanc. Conclusion - Saruman is better at making orcs than Sauron.

[Passdagas the Brown]

I love this shot:

https://heirsofdurin.files.wordpress.co ... 027819.jpg

I'm tempted to tease you by saying that it is clearly "phoned in" CGI, but I like it myself too much to do so.

I think these orcs look closest to how Tolkien described most of them. With more of a simian physiology (long arms, short legs, etc):

https://heirsofdurin.files.wordpress.co ... 124249.jpg

Yup. It's taken almost 15 years, and 6 films, but Jackson might have finally figured out how to get the Orcs right.

Agreed. And frankly, I never really liked the "muscle men in prosthetics" look of the Uruk-Hai, or the little ratty orcs of Moria and Mordor. In this case, CGI helps give us a more interesting and faithful look. Though of course, there's too much of it. If PJ knew how to be sparing with CGI, these films could have been great.

[Dave_LF]

Here is a TV spot that contains a couple new lines and shots.