Winter is Coming: A Game of Thrones (SPOILERS)
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Re: Winter is Coming: A Game of Thrones (SPOILERS)
A good workout while waiting (seemingly forever) for the next season. Warning - spoilers thru all seasons.
https://www.nerdfitness.com/blog/the-wi ... g-workout/
https://www.nerdfitness.com/blog/the-wi ... g-workout/
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Re: Winter is Coming: A Game of Thrones (SPOILERS)
when your worlds meet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxWfvtnHtS0
kinda surprised people didn't know the song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxWfvtnHtS0
kinda surprised people didn't know the song
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Re: Winter is Coming: A Game of Thrones (SPOILERS)
I fell out of love with Game of Thrones several years ago now, but I've found myself thinking about its impending conclusion more than I'd expected. I knew that I was gonna tune in for the final episode no matter what, even though I haven't watched regularly since mid-season six, but I'll probably be there for the first episode of the final season (Sunday night) as well, and maybe the ones in between. I vividly remember watching the very first episode (with only 2.2 million other viewers lol) when it aired: my university paid for HBO in dorm rooms and I'd brought a TV, so I was able to watch it in the common area of the four person suite I was in. I've personally drifted in and out of the show's orbit multiple times over the years, but it's been such a consistent presence in online culture and general "geekdom" for so long that it's departure feels significant. Even more than Avengers: Endgame (which, to be honest, I'm more excited about) since the MCU will continue. I mean, there's the GOT spin-off(s) on the horizon, but AFAIK it's not going to share any major characters, whereas we've already got a trailer for the next Spider-Man movie.
Re: Winter is Coming: A Game of Thrones (SPOILERS)
This really had me lol'ing! No spoilers, or very minor ones if you haven't watched the previous seasons.
Um, could someone tag Inanna on this?
If Game of Thrones Were Indian:
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Um, could someone tag Inanna on this?
If Game of Thrones Were Indian:
https://www.facebook.com/IISuperwomanII ... A1OTkwNjU/
When the night has been too lonely, and the road has been too long,
And you think that love is only for the lucky and the strong,
Just remember in the winter far beneath the bitter snows,
Lies the seed, that with the sun's love, in the spring becomes The Rose.
And you think that love is only for the lucky and the strong,
Just remember in the winter far beneath the bitter snows,
Lies the seed, that with the sun's love, in the spring becomes The Rose.
Re: Winter is Coming: A Game of Thrones (SPOILERS)
Well, that was Epic!
The Vinyamars on Stage! This time at Bag End
Re: Winter is Coming: A Game of Thrones (SPOILERS)
Ohmigod. My stomach is hurting!! Rotfl!!Sunsilver wrote:This really had me lol'ing! No spoilers, or very minor ones if you haven't watched the previous seasons.
Um, could someone tag Inanna on this?
If Game of Thrones Were Indian:
https://www.facebook.com/IISuperwomanII ... A1OTkwNjU/
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Re: Winter is Coming: A Game of Thrones (SPOILERS)
Thoughts.
Knowing that this show was ending this year, and that all my friends had been watching it all along, I finally decided that I would jump in and watch it. Earlier this year I started watching it in preparation for the final season. Then the Red Wedding happened. I absolutely hated it. I very much wanted to quit watching then and there. It was, in my opinion, abysmal storytelling and signaled that the authors had no idea what they were doing. I did not quit, again, because of my friends but also because it had become such a cultural phenomenon that I felt almost obligated. It only got worse though, and now, as we come down to the end, I really wish I had quit back then. Because f*** this show. I hate the damm thing and just want the misery to be over so the world can collectively move on.
Knowing that this show was ending this year, and that all my friends had been watching it all along, I finally decided that I would jump in and watch it. Earlier this year I started watching it in preparation for the final season. Then the Red Wedding happened. I absolutely hated it. I very much wanted to quit watching then and there. It was, in my opinion, abysmal storytelling and signaled that the authors had no idea what they were doing. I did not quit, again, because of my friends but also because it had become such a cultural phenomenon that I felt almost obligated. It only got worse though, and now, as we come down to the end, I really wish I had quit back then. Because f*** this show. I hate the damm thing and just want the misery to be over so the world can collectively move on.
I wanna love somebody but I don't know how
I wanna throw my body in the river and drown
-The Decemberists
I wanna throw my body in the river and drown
-The Decemberists
Re: Winter is Coming: A Game of Thrones (SPOILERS)
The "Red Wedding" appears in the books as well, and is arguably one of the better story points in the whole narrative. Indeed, the difference between the "Red Wedding" and more recent "twists" in the show is that what happened then made sense (at least in hindsight) and felt consistent whereas now a lot of things feel rushed. Game of Thrones is still superior to most of what is shown on TV (let alone mainstream Hollywood) but the quality has dipped indeed.
Re: Winter is Coming: A Game of Thrones (SPOILERS)
My feeling is the show started to weaken when the writers ran out of novels to base the script on. That was Season 6. The Red Wedding was in the novels and it played out on paper much the same as how it played out on screen (Rob's wife wasn't there in the book). That said, there are a number of readers who feel that the Red Wedding was when the book series jumped the shark. I'm still waiting for how both the TV and the written versions finish before I render judgment. But I mention it so you feel less lonely in your criticism, yov.
What's really creepy is the Red Wedding was based on an actual historical event: The Black Dinner.
What's really creepy is the Red Wedding was based on an actual historical event: The Black Dinner.
When you can do nothing what can you do?
Re: Winter is Coming: A Game of Thrones (SPOILERS)
I know that the Red Wedding was based on the book and I don't take issue with it from a logical perspective like much of the last two seasons. But I still think it's a terrible way to tell a terrible story. Almost all of the storielines since season 2 have sucked IMO. The show is a giant pile of potential wasted on cheap cynicism and shock value.
I wanna love somebody but I don't know how
I wanna throw my body in the river and drown
-The Decemberists
I wanna throw my body in the river and drown
-The Decemberists
Re: Winter is Coming: A Game of Thrones (SPOILERS)
Describing the "Red Wedding" as "cheap cynicism and shock value" is overtly reductive. Part of the allure of "Game of Thrones" has always been that it was a (slightly) more challgenging show than the dreck that usually is aired on TV and blockbuster cinema. The "Red Wedding" was not merely a twist for the sake of a twist but conveyed multiple larger themes of the series: That certain actions can have dark and terminal consequences, that character arcs (in real history and fiction) do not always have a satisfying ending, and that hopelessness in the face of death is certainly the final feeling of many people. "Game of Thrones" has never been truly great art, but through scenes such as the "Red Wedding" it partly transcended the ever-pleasing, ever-undemanding modus operandi of Hollywood. The two head-writers of the show apparently did not get that, viewed the scene as merely a great and shocking twist, and therefore hoped to achieve the same result in the last two seasons. They were wrong.
Re: Winter is Coming: A Game of Thrones (SPOILERS)
Right. That's what I said. Cheap cynicism.That certain actions can have dark and terminal consequences, that character arcs (in real history and fiction) do not always have a satisfying ending, and that hopelessness in the face of death is certainly the final feeling of many people.
I wanna love somebody but I don't know how
I wanna throw my body in the river and drown
-The Decemberists
I wanna throw my body in the river and drown
-The Decemberists
Re: Winter is Coming: A Game of Thrones (SPOILERS)
What I described above is not cynicism, let alone cheap cynicism. That is an overtly broad and false definition of a rather clearly defined term; one that is inherently intertwined with an essentially derisive outlook towards certain mores and people. Ned Stark's death in the show is portrayed as a tragic death; the same goes for the "Red Wedding" - the music, tempo, character actions - all convey tragedy. A cynic would portray these scenes in a mocking fashion, "cynically" mocking what has transpired.
Re: Winter is Coming: A Game of Thrones (SPOILERS)
yov, I don't understand why you forced yourself to watch something you hated.
When I heard that Amazon was hoping to turn Tolkien into the next GoT, I thought I'd better watch it so as to condition myself as to what might be done to Tolkien. I made it through Season 6, but just couldn't sustain the effort through Season 7. I'm reading the synopses of the final season episodes and I may watch them eventually. It does indeed sound as though they are rushing to cram everything in.
One wonders how successful it would have been without all the torture, sex and nudity.
I tried listening to the audiobooks, but the choice of reader was unfortunate. He sounds old and his voice has a laborious quality, and I found it too trying to listen to.
When I heard that Amazon was hoping to turn Tolkien into the next GoT, I thought I'd better watch it so as to condition myself as to what might be done to Tolkien. I made it through Season 6, but just couldn't sustain the effort through Season 7. I'm reading the synopses of the final season episodes and I may watch them eventually. It does indeed sound as though they are rushing to cram everything in.
One wonders how successful it would have been without all the torture, sex and nudity.
I tried listening to the audiobooks, but the choice of reader was unfortunate. He sounds old and his voice has a laborious quality, and I found it too trying to listen to.
Avatar photo by Richard Lykes, used with permission.
Re: Winter is Coming: A Game of Thrones (SPOILERS)
Mostly because I had promised my friend I would watch the final season with him and he would have been really disappointed if I had bailed. The promise was easy to make back when I had only watched the first season, which I had loved.Cerin wrote:yov, I don't understand why you forced yourself to watch something you hated.
I wanna love somebody but I don't know how
I wanna throw my body in the river and drown
-The Decemberists
I wanna throw my body in the river and drown
-The Decemberists
Re: Winter is Coming: A Game of Thrones (SPOILERS)
Just going to leave this here...
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When the night has been too lonely, and the road has been too long,
And you think that love is only for the lucky and the strong,
Just remember in the winter far beneath the bitter snows,
Lies the seed, that with the sun's love, in the spring becomes The Rose.
And you think that love is only for the lucky and the strong,
Just remember in the winter far beneath the bitter snows,
Lies the seed, that with the sun's love, in the spring becomes The Rose.
Re: Winter is Coming: A Game of Thrones (SPOILERS)
LOL what a dumb show LOL
I wanna love somebody but I don't know how
I wanna throw my body in the river and drown
-The Decemberists
I wanna throw my body in the river and drown
-The Decemberists
Re: Winter is Coming: A Game of Thrones (SPOILERS)
I didn't totally hate the finale, but I didn't much like it either. Major lengthy commentary with numerous spoilers follows:
Hidden text.
When the night has been too lonely, and the road has been too long,
And you think that love is only for the lucky and the strong,
Just remember in the winter far beneath the bitter snows,
Lies the seed, that with the sun's love, in the spring becomes The Rose.
And you think that love is only for the lucky and the strong,
Just remember in the winter far beneath the bitter snows,
Lies the seed, that with the sun's love, in the spring becomes The Rose.
Re: Winter is Coming: A Game of Thrones (SPOILERS)
Mainly just - Bran?? Really?? Who on earth or in Westeros gives one flying rats butt about Bran??
I wanna love somebody but I don't know how
I wanna throw my body in the river and drown
-The Decemberists
I wanna throw my body in the river and drown
-The Decemberists
Re: Winter is Coming: A Game of Thrones (SPOILERS)
It seemed so obvious to me that Jon Snow should be king. (Haven't seen episode.)
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I did not agree with commentary I read objecting to Dany's 'turn.' Her cruel streak and megalomania were always in evidence.
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I did not agree with commentary I read objecting to Dany's 'turn.' Her cruel streak and megalomania were always in evidence.
Avatar photo by Richard Lykes, used with permission.