Daily Dracula
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Re: Daily Dracula
It seems there was only one casualty on Dracula's return trip of which we are aware (Petrof Skinsky, the man who was hired to take the box off the ship). Given the wanton destruction of those on the Demeter, I find it odd.
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Re: Daily Dracula
It's gone! It's done!
Let the other societies take the skilled, the hopefuls, the ambitious, the self-confident. He’d take the whining resentful ones, the ones with a bellyful of spite and bile, the ones who knew they could make it big if only they’d been given the chance. Give him the ones in which the floods of venom and vindictiveness were dammed up behind thin walls of ineptitude and lowgrade paranoia.
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I have thoughts but I was going to wait to see if others were finished before discussing. In addition to reading Dracula, I simultaneously read the summary & analysis from Spark Notes which added to my impressions of the work.
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Re: Daily Dracula
A "years later" epilogue - just like Harry Potter!
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As I mentioned earlier, I read the Spark Notes summary & analysis for the appropriate chapters simultaneously with the Dracula emails which added some depth and background to the story so perhaps I'm going to take too deep a dive into my thoughts and reaction to the novel. I tried to read this tale we all kinda grew up 'knowing' through new eyes/without prejudice. It wasn't terribly hard to do as there is a lot in the novel I was not familiar with.
The epistolary style of writing is clever for this type of tale, as having multiple narrators/ different people telling the same story lends to the idea that they all can't be crazy/lying. Official papers, ship's logs, newspaper articles all lend reality/authenticity to the events.
Given the time the story was written it is understandably Victorian with chaste -especially female- purity and worthiness vs. sexual overtones attributed to evil and uncleanliness. However what caught my attention is that it is heavy on Catholic propaganda, superstition, and customs with reliance on the miraculous power of the host and crucifix (which was the norm/encouraged pre-Vatican II, 1962-1965) along with forgiveness and redemption after 'becoming clean'. This made me curious what faith Bram Stoker practiced and, to my surprise he was born and raised Protestant/Anglican (Church of Ireland). Furthering this idea is an article I ran across, Keeping the faith: Catholicism in "Dracula" which has some interesting things to say:
Stoker may have been using religious and Victorian stereotypes much as he used the trope of the backward, superstitious Eastern European peasant vs. the cultured and educated Englishman. The collaboration with the Gypsies was also interesting. I couldn't quite figure out what was in it for them, but it came across to me a statement of their character as a whole, that they would collaborate/do any unholy thing for money. I'd be curious what you all thought.
There is an earlier Vampire tale/gothic novella which inspired Stoker, Carmilla. It is by Irish author Sheridan Le Fanu which, from the Wikipedia entry sounds as if there are sexual/lesbian overtones. I suppose such novels were a way of allowing such taboo topics to titillate yet fly under the radar in polite Victorian society. This novella is available on Project Guttenberg.
The epistolary style of writing is clever for this type of tale, as having multiple narrators/ different people telling the same story lends to the idea that they all can't be crazy/lying. Official papers, ship's logs, newspaper articles all lend reality/authenticity to the events.
Given the time the story was written it is understandably Victorian with chaste -especially female- purity and worthiness vs. sexual overtones attributed to evil and uncleanliness. However what caught my attention is that it is heavy on Catholic propaganda, superstition, and customs with reliance on the miraculous power of the host and crucifix (which was the norm/encouraged pre-Vatican II, 1962-1965) along with forgiveness and redemption after 'becoming clean'. This made me curious what faith Bram Stoker practiced and, to my surprise he was born and raised Protestant/Anglican (Church of Ireland). Furthering this idea is an article I ran across, Keeping the faith: Catholicism in "Dracula" which has some interesting things to say:
Later in the article discussing subsequent film adaptations;The novel’s religious analogy is obvious: in the most basic
of his many perversions of Catholic lore, Count Dracula is the figurative anti-Christ who promises
eternal life through the ingestion not of sacramental wine representing the blood of Christ, but of actual
human blood.
.This Dracula movie refrains
from mentioning the “P” or “C” words but in a film with so thin a plot any edifice is plainly visible:
Gabriel Van Helsing is saving the world from Dracula on behalf of the Catholic Church
Stoker may have been using religious and Victorian stereotypes much as he used the trope of the backward, superstitious Eastern European peasant vs. the cultured and educated Englishman. The collaboration with the Gypsies was also interesting. I couldn't quite figure out what was in it for them, but it came across to me a statement of their character as a whole, that they would collaborate/do any unholy thing for money. I'd be curious what you all thought.
There is an earlier Vampire tale/gothic novella which inspired Stoker, Carmilla. It is by Irish author Sheridan Le Fanu which, from the Wikipedia entry sounds as if there are sexual/lesbian overtones. I suppose such novels were a way of allowing such taboo topics to titillate yet fly under the radar in polite Victorian society. This novella is available on Project Guttenberg.
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Re: Daily Dracula
To avoid sidetracking the legendarium thread - YouTube has an abridged Dracula audiobook read by Sir Christopher Lee, and it's amazing.
Let the other societies take the skilled, the hopefuls, the ambitious, the self-confident. He’d take the whining resentful ones, the ones with a bellyful of spite and bile, the ones who knew they could make it big if only they’d been given the chance. Give him the ones in which the floods of venom and vindictiveness were dammed up behind thin walls of ineptitude and lowgrade paranoia.
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This is the link I have, which I meant to post and forgot. But I think it's the same content.
Let the other societies take the skilled, the hopefuls, the ambitious, the self-confident. He’d take the whining resentful ones, the ones with a bellyful of spite and bile, the ones who knew they could make it big if only they’d been given the chance. Give him the ones in which the floods of venom and vindictiveness were dammed up behind thin walls of ineptitude and lowgrade paranoia.
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Re: Daily Dracula
It's about to start up again. Has it really been a year?
Let the other societies take the skilled, the hopefuls, the ambitious, the self-confident. He’d take the whining resentful ones, the ones with a bellyful of spite and bile, the ones who knew they could make it big if only they’d been given the chance. Give him the ones in which the floods of venom and vindictiveness were dammed up behind thin walls of ineptitude and lowgrade paranoia.
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This thread started 3 days less than a year ago today.
"Spirits in the shape of hawks and eagles flew ever to and from his halls; and their eyes could see to the depths of the seas, and pierce the hidden caverns beneath the world."
Re: Daily Dracula
Are we doing it again? Would it make sense to?
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Re: Daily Dracula
Probably depends on how much you liked it the first time around.
Let the other societies take the skilled, the hopefuls, the ambitious, the self-confident. He’d take the whining resentful ones, the ones with a bellyful of spite and bile, the ones who knew they could make it big if only they’d been given the chance. Give him the ones in which the floods of venom and vindictiveness were dammed up behind thin walls of ineptitude and lowgrade paranoia.
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Prior to last year I had presumed I'd read it at some point, but now I'm certain I had not. I was surprised how much of the story I was unaware of considering Dracula stories/folklore were a part of my youth. 'Creature Feature' Friday night movies were staples of sleepovers.
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