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And the Harris campaign has already turned it into an ad.

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Howard Lutnick, the CEO of Cantor Fitzgerald who will be the co-chair of Donald Trump's transition team (if Trump should win the election), apparently is opposed to childhood vaccinations, although he uses a just-asking-questions pose in this interview tonight:



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N.E. Brigand wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 3:05 am Donald Trump tonight: "I want to protect the women of our country ... I'm gonna do it whether the women like it or not."
Voronwë the Faithful wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 3:52 am I don't recall if you mentioned this already, but on a similar note, Trump stated today that he was going to protect women whether they want him to or not.
Voronwë the Faithful wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 4:05 am Here is the clip I mentioned earlier. ...
Voronwë the Faithful wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 4:25 am And the Harris campaign has already turned it into an ad. ...
At first, I thought the clip in your earlier post was the ad, which I had seen at about the same time. It's well done, and they issued it so fast!

Meanwhile, Elon Musk's ad referring to Kamala Harris as "the C-word" is still online.

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Anecdotally, Tim Miller's essay, "A Message for Haley Voters Still on the Fence," may be moving some people. I suspect that essay, and Jimmy Kimmel's video, would only have a chance of succeeding at changing minds if shared by someone the undecided or right-leaning voter personally knows.

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Yes, keep talking about how your supporter said at your rally that Puerto Rico is "garbage."

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Earlier today, the Daily Mail published a new allegation of Donald Trump trying to force himself on a woman in the early 1990s. The alleged victim was then a 22-year-old Swiss model attending a pageant Trump hosted in New York. Beatrice Keul has documents that appear to prove that she was at the event, and she has someone who says she told him about the incident decades ago:

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This is an actual photo shot by a professional photographer today:

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Voronwë the Faithful wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 4:25 am And the Harris campaign has already turned it into an ad. ...
Kevin Kruse points out that in that clip, Donald Trump also says that he said to his staff four weeks ago that "I'm president."

(He is not the president.)
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While the name Ariane Grande sounds familiar to men I'm not even sure who she isn't but I think she wins the internet for today..



Meanwhile we should have been seeing dozens of headlines like this one.

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More election fraud. I guess these people think there is so much election fraud because they do so much of it.



More fake election fraud.

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Voronwë the Faithful wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 1:01 pm While the name Ariana Grande sounds familiar to me I'm not even sure who she isn't but I think she wins the internet for today.
She's a pop music singer (with eight singles that reached #1 from 2018 to 2024 -- I've heard some of them) who is starring as Glinda the witch in the upcoming film adaptation of the long-running Broadway musical Wicked, which itself was based on a 1995 book that was a prequel to The Wizard of Oz.

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In other news: incumbent Republican U.S. Senator Deb Fischer of Nebraska is in a surprisingly close race against her challenger, Dan Osborn, an independent. Fischer's latest ad opens with her saying "Nebraska is a great place to raise families, and I've worked hard to keep it that way" as we see images of small towns and bucolic farms.

Those towns and farms we see are in New England.

(I like the theory that someone on her team did a search for "NE small towns.")
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Thanks. I was being somewhat tongue-in-cheek about my own cluelessness about pop culture.

As for the Fischer ad, I'm sure that is exactly what happened.
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One of the speakers at Donald Trump's big Madison Square Garden rally Sunday said this about Democrats: "The whole fucking party, a bunch of degenerates, lowlifes, Jew-haters and lowlifes. Every one of them. Every one of them."

Neither Trump nor his campaign have criticized those comments.

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Charlie Kirk, the founder of the conservative organization Turning Point USA, said on Megyn Kelly's radio program yesterday that he finds it repulsive that Democrats want Republican women to "undermine their husbands" by secretly voting for Kamala Harris. He says its wrong for a woman to against the wishes of the man who "works his tail off to make sure that she can have a nice life."

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Donald Trump's campaign in Allegheny County, Pennsylvania (where Pittsburgh is located) has two canvassing events scheduled for this weekend, but the address for those events is in Franklin County, located some three hours' drive to the southeast.

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I was being genuinely clueless. I know she's a pop singer, couldn't name any of her hits but recognized some of the titles, and I've never read or seen "Wicked."
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Some people believe that Donald Trump appears to think he's losing -- thus his repeated claims of voter fraud particularly in Pennsylvania -- but he could be wrong. He thought he was going to lose in 2016, too, but it didn't work out.
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Ohhhhhh nooooooooo! Mr. Don!



As N.E.B. noted yesterday, that is not a doctored photo. It is an honest-to-goodness real photo taken by a professional photographer.
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I was just polled for the second time this year (by the Associated Press).
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N.E. Brigand wrote:Some people believe that Donald Trump appears to think he's losing -- thus his repeated claims of voter fraud particularly in Pennsylvania -- but he could be wrong. He thought he was going to lose in 2016, too, but it didn't work out.
I’m not convinced Donald Trump even knows who he’s running against on a consistent basis.

I’m also kind of confused by the unspoken assumption that the campaigns have a better picture of the race than the rest of us, which shows up from time to time. If anything, I’d think it’s *harder* for them to maintain sober analysis given the rah rah pressure.
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Fox News tweeted this today: "Tim Walz allegedly told high school football player struggling with crime and alcohol to keep playing."

Uh, isn't that a good thing? (The former player says it is!)
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Trump has sued CBS for $10 billion (yes, that billion with a "B") for allegedly maliciously editing the 60 Minutes interview with Harris. And the filed the case in Amarillo, Texas, to ensure that it was assigned to the most Trumpy judge in the U.S. (sorry Judge Cannon), Judge Matthew J. Kacsmaryk.

I literally thought that is was a joke and that someone was mistaking Halloween for April Fools Day, but I looked it up and it as real as can be. Here is the Complaint, care of Brandi Buchman at Huff Post.

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Gallup doesn't do polling on candidates anymore, but they have been asking Americans whether they consider themselves to be Republicans or Democrats.

In the first half of the month (Oct. 1-12), this was the response:
-Democratic -- 28% (42% including Independents who lean left)
-Republican -- 31% (49% including Independents who lean right)
-Independent -- 41%

But in the second half of the month (Oct. 14-27), the response was as follows:
-Democratic -- 32% (48% including Independents who lean left)
-Republican -- 29% (47% including Independents who lean right)
-Independent -- 37%

In the three-option poll, that's the best number for Democrats in the past two years (Gallup's chart at the link doesn't show farther back than November 2022), although Democrats were at 31% in the first half of August and the second half of September. In that two-year period, it's also the lowest number for Independents, who jumped to 51% in June.
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The Cato Institute, which is a libertarian think tank, reports that as president, Donald Trump's border security policy "released criminals in order to jail asylum seekers."
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Not a new point, but still a good one:

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N.E. Brigand wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 5:10 am This is an actual photo shot by a professional photographer today:

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In 2018 I had a friend over and to help vent our frustration we messed around with Play Doh and did some creations that looks amazingly similar. When we were finished creating, we smashed them. =:)
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Donald Trump did end up speaking in New Mexico today. He falsely claimed to have won the state twice. (He lost it twice.) And he actually said this:

"So I'm here for one simple reason, I like you very much, and it's good for my credentials with the Hispanic or Latino community."
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