So do I. And it was your work on the B77 charter that brought me here.Voronwë_the_Faithful wrote:artie! I look forward to what promises to be some very interesting discussions.
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Welcome, artie! 
It's really flattering to see that the work we did for the b77 constitution was far reaching enough to have interested others.
It certainly was an exhilarating experience: shaping agreement out of differing views, discussing politics not from some news about presidents but where it really concerns ourselves and getting to know some really awesome people.
But I'm not sure if it's something that can be discussed without hurting others.
But we'll see. I think I saw the name "democracy" on b77 - it made me smile.
It's very interesting what you say about our greeting others, I think you're right, but there needs to be a middle way.
In the long run, it's off-putting to greet people who never end up replying, but the last time I registered on a board on which I felt a bit insecure, I was waiting for people to welcome me rather than introducing myself, so I can see it's important to greet the new member rather than wait for the member to introduce him- or herself.
I think it's a good compromise if one or two people greet the newbie, and then, if the newbie replies, the others can chime in.
Bolg - I think that's about my win/loss statistics as well, but in general!
Oh, and most people call me snakes or snakesie or something like that for short - it's nicer than s-n-l.
(In case anyone wonders: s-n-l is me - I play chess as snakesandladders. )
It's really flattering to see that the work we did for the b77 constitution was far reaching enough to have interested others.
It certainly was an exhilarating experience: shaping agreement out of differing views, discussing politics not from some news about presidents but where it really concerns ourselves and getting to know some really awesome people.
But I'm not sure if it's something that can be discussed without hurting others.
But we'll see. I think I saw the name "democracy" on b77 - it made me smile.
It's very interesting what you say about our greeting others, I think you're right, but there needs to be a middle way.
In the long run, it's off-putting to greet people who never end up replying, but the last time I registered on a board on which I felt a bit insecure, I was waiting for people to welcome me rather than introducing myself, so I can see it's important to greet the new member rather than wait for the member to introduce him- or herself.
I think it's a good compromise if one or two people greet the newbie, and then, if the newbie replies, the others can chime in.
Bolg - I think that's about my win/loss statistics as well, but in general!
Oh, and most people call me snakes or snakesie or something like that for short - it's nicer than s-n-l.
(In case anyone wonders: s-n-l is me - I play chess as snakesandladders.
)but being a cheerful hobbit he had not needed hope, as long as despair could be postponed.
truehobbit - we can only learn by trying things out.
At least you tried and that is what impresses me.
I don't think that you or the experiment failed.
You can claim success because you learned how to write a charter, how to conduct committees, how to qualify questions and answers, how to evaluate a poll and many other democratic skills.
Maybe you even discovered for the first time
that democracy is an art and a discipline?
It is simple. But it is not simpleton!
Stand by for a special PM that you will recieve soon!
At least you tried and that is what impresses me.
I don't think that you or the experiment failed.
You can claim success because you learned how to write a charter, how to conduct committees, how to qualify questions and answers, how to evaluate a poll and many other democratic skills.
Maybe you even discovered for the first time
that democracy is an art and a discipline?
It is simple. But it is not simpleton!
Stand by for a special PM that you will recieve soon!
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It's another messageboard many of us were involved in about a year ago, Bolg. A number of people tried to create a new kind of community there - what in German we call "basis democracy" - more anarchic, really. Marvellous experience, and a great learning curve!
But we really prefer not to make other messageboards the subject of discussion on this messageboard, because it's just not nice to analyse others as if they objects of study rather than living communities.
W00t - me own specially crafted handmade PM received, artie. Thanks for your kind words!
But we really prefer not to make other messageboards the subject of discussion on this messageboard, because it's just not nice to analyse others as if they objects of study rather than living communities.
W00t - me own specially crafted handmade PM received, artie.
Thanks for your kind words! but being a cheerful hobbit he had not needed hope, as long as despair could be postponed.
What an excellent way to put it, Hobby. B77 is still a living community. Here's the link if Bolg wants to take a look:Hobby wrote:But we really prefer not to make other messageboards the subject of discussion on this messageboard, because it's just not nice to analyse others as if they objects of study rather than living communities.
www.board77.net
Anthy, TAZ stands for The Administrator Zone. It's a messageboard for admins to discuss just about every aspect of messageboard administration. I joined there when we started HoF because they have all kinds of software tips and keep a running tally of the names of active adbots and stuff like that. I don't visit very often, maybe once a month, but it's a good read.
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Thanks for the information, Jnyusa and truehobbit
I saw some familiar names there.
Permit me one last question, or at least confirm what seems to be apparent to me already.
A signature pic is an automatic feature at this site ?
I have never been called Captain Obvious before, but now may be the perfect time.
I saw some familiar names there.
Permit me one last question, or at least confirm what seems to be apparent to me already.
A signature pic is an automatic feature at this site ?
I have never been called Captain Obvious before, but now may be the perfect time.
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I'm not sure what you're asking, Bolg. You don't have to have an avatar or a sig (text or pic) if you prefer not. You can set them in your profile. You can also choose whether or not to have your sig appear in a particular post—it's one of the check boxes below the text box where you type your post.
You do have to have "Always attach my signature" checked "Yes" in your profile for the sig to ever show.
You do have to have "Always attach my signature" checked "Yes" in your profile for the sig to ever show.
“There, peeping among the cloud-wrack above a dark tor high up in the mountains, Sam saw a white star twinkle for a while. The beauty of it smote his heart, as he looked up out of the forsaken land, and hope returned to him. For like a shaft, clear and cold, the thought pierced him that in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach.”
― J.R.R. Tolkien, The Return of the King
― J.R.R. Tolkien, The Return of the King
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You can ask as many questions about how this site works as you want, Capt..., er, Bolg!
Yes, you can have a sig pic or text, there are no charges for using any of the functions of this site, but we ask that the sig pics be not wider than 600 pixels (so as not to stretch the page for others), and not gross or shocking or so. The length of text in sigs is limited to 500 characters.
Yes, you can have a sig pic or text, there are no charges for using any of the functions of this site, but we ask that the sig pics be not wider than 600 pixels (so as not to stretch the page for others), and not gross or shocking or so. The length of text in sigs is limited to 500 characters.
but being a cheerful hobbit he had not needed hope, as long as despair could be postponed.
I did not come here to discuss the B77 board or this board.
I am here to make contact with people who have an interest in furthering the democratic experiment.
I am not here to make threads.
If you are interested I want to talk via PM.
I am only interested in the B77 things if they can further a series of democracy experiments I am planning.
And I chose to come here because you all have some experience with at least a few of the fundemementals.
There are some other pieces to the democratic puzzle that may help to fit things together.
But if people are all worn out from the B77 experience maybe I'm barking up the wrong tree?
I think that I might be able to shed some light on the next step though because I have been thinking about the problem for 4 years although from a different angle.
Maybe the pieces that you have and the pieces that I have will make the puzzle or the edges of the puzzle?
I don't know. But you have to be willing to come back to the table and take a fresh look at the puzzle.
I am here to make contact with people who have an interest in furthering the democratic experiment.
I am not here to make threads.
If you are interested I want to talk via PM.
I am only interested in the B77 things if they can further a series of democracy experiments I am planning.
And I chose to come here because you all have some experience with at least a few of the fundemementals.
There are some other pieces to the democratic puzzle that may help to fit things together.
But if people are all worn out from the B77 experience maybe I'm barking up the wrong tree?
I think that I might be able to shed some light on the next step though because I have been thinking about the problem for 4 years although from a different angle.
Maybe the pieces that you have and the pieces that I have will make the puzzle or the edges of the puzzle?
I don't know. But you have to be willing to come back to the table and take a fresh look at the puzzle.
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I don't like disagreement too. You should listen to the fights my parents have! I wish they'd just get along.artie wrote: I will engage in dialogue with a purpose toward agreement with anyone here.
I am not going to debate the obvious.
I don't really know what the obvious is. That's something you grown-ups know. I think I'll know it when I grow up.
Can we go to another room now?
