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I'm going to revisit my answer to Inanna's question. While it is true that the pledge or bond in question is not related to the Silmaril's, the context in which the speaker makes the statement is.
"Spirits in the shape of hawks and eagles flew ever to and from his halls; and their eyes could see to the depths of the seas, and pierce the hidden caverns beneath the world."
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So, there was stuff related to the Silmarils happening when that sentence was spoken….
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Yup!
"Spirits in the shape of hawks and eagles flew ever to and from his halls; and their eyes could see to the depths of the seas, and pierce the hidden caverns beneath the world."
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Was Maedhros involved in the conversation?
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He was not (but nice to see you back in this game).

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Your pledge of faith in me may be broken, but I must retain my bond.
"Spirits in the shape of hawks and eagles flew ever to and from his halls; and their eyes could see to the depths of the seas, and pierce the hidden caverns beneath the world."
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Is this Feanors half Brother (Fingolfin maybe? My Sil is sketchy at best)
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Nope. A relative of Fëanor, but not quite that close.
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Was this statement made in Beleriand?
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Indeed it was.
"Spirits in the shape of hawks and eagles flew ever to and from his halls; and their eyes could see to the depths of the seas, and pierce the hidden caverns beneath the world."
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To be more exact, it was stated within one of the realms within Beleriand ruled by the relative of Fëanor.
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Is the speaker referring to the oath to recover the Silmarils, and place a curse on anyone who kept them?
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Neither of the pledges or bonds (or oaths) that the speaker is referring to is related to recovering the Silmarils, but the circumstances in which the person is making the statement is related to both an effort to recover a Silmaril, as well as a curse on anyone who kept them.
"Spirits in the shape of hawks and eagles flew ever to and from his halls; and their eyes could see to the depths of the seas, and pierce the hidden caverns beneath the world."
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Do we need more of a hint? To recap: it was stated by a relative of Fëanor, in a realm ruled by that relative of Fëanor within Beleriand, and while the pledges or bonds or oaths that the speaker is referring to are not related to the Silmarils, the circumstances in which the speaker makes the statement is related to an effort to recover a Silmaril. I will add that as a result of what the speaker is saying, the speaker soon will no longer be ruling that realm.
"Spirits in the shape of hawks and eagles flew ever to and from his halls; and their eyes could see to the depths of the seas, and pierce the hidden caverns beneath the world."
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Is Fëanor still alive when this was spoken?
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No. Long since gone. There were no realms in Beleriand ruled by any relatives of Fëanor during his lifetime!
"Spirits in the shape of hawks and eagles flew ever to and from his halls; and their eyes could see to the depths of the seas, and pierce the hidden caverns beneath the world."
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Is it Finrod speaking to his subjects about his decision to aid Beren?

"Your oaths of faith to me you may break, but I must hold my bond."
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It is! Your turn. :)
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Thanks, V!

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I have no idea what that is, but somehow, it made me smile. :)
"Spirits in the shape of hawks and eagles flew ever to and from his halls; and their eyes could see to the depths of the seas, and pierce the hidden caverns beneath the world."
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As usual, I ran a few different quotes through Translation Party, but as soon as I saw this output I knew it was the one. :D
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