News from Bree and other random discussions

[elengil]

I don't even know of one who died 3 times. I can think of several who died twice.. and a few mortals who didn't die at all... but 4 times? Do enlighten!

[N.E. Brigand]

Just for fun, here's a trivia question for you all: Which Tolkien character died four times?

(maybe more; I can think of four times off the top of my head)

Hmm. I think Sauron lost his body three times and was threatened with having it happen a fourth time (which would have been the first time) if he didn't cooperate with his captor. Not sure if that's what you you have in mind. Or if I'm counting wrong.

[Voronwë the Faithful]

That's pretty much what I was thinking, too. I can't think of who else it could be, off the top of my head, but I'll keep thinking.

[Jude]

You're both correct, it's Sauron. Here's the tally I came up with:

First Age: killed by Huan
Second Age: drowned when Númenor is destroyed
Second Age: killed by Elendil and Gil-Galad
Third Age: permanently (as far as we know) killed when Ring is destroyed

Moral: crime does not pay

[Inanna]

You're both correct, it's Sauron. Here's the tally I came up with:

First Age: killed by Huan
Second Age: drowned when Númenor is destroyed
Second Age: killed by Elendil and Gil-Galad
Third Age: permanently (as far as we know) killed when Ring is destroyed

Moral: crime does not pay

I don’t know. Everyone else died just once or twice. Looks like crime gave him higher number of lives.

[Frelga]

Yes, and he did well for himself in some of his lives.

And he would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for those meddling Hobbits.

[Jude]

Would you rather have one long interrupted life of a few thousand years, or spend several of those years dead?

Also, some of his deaths were quite unpleasant.

[Jude]

You know what I would really like? An edition of LOTR but published under the title "The Downfall of the Lord of the Rings and the Return of the King". Bonus points if it's issued in a beautiful red hardbook cover.

I just read a Wikipedia article that lists the original titles that Tolkien wanted for the individual volumes. So my ideal edition would be six individual volumes with the following titles:

The Ring Sets Out
The Ring Goes South
The Treason of Isengard
The Ring Goes East
The War of the Ring
The End of the Third Age

All enclosed in a beautiful red slipcase.

[Voronwë the Faithful]

That should happen.

[Inanna]

Want.

[Túrin Turambar]

I've posted a few reaction videos from people watching the films for the first time. This is the first one I've found of a fan of the films reacting to the books:

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She's only gone through FotR so far, and while she's found a lot to like she's also found it hard going overall. Her favourite chapters seem to be the first couple, in the Shire. She struggled most through the Old Forest and Bombadil chapters. As a side note, even as a long-term fan of the books my preferences are similar.

[Frelga]

[N.E. Brigand]

You know what I would really like? An edition of LOTR but published under the title "The Downfall of the Lord of the Rings and the Return of the King". Bonus points if it's issued in a beautiful red hardbook cover.

I just read a Wikipedia article that lists the original titles that Tolkien wanted for the individual volumes. So my ideal edition would be six individual volumes with the following titles:

The Ring Sets Out
The Ring Goes South
The Treason of Isengard
The Ring Goes East
The War of the Ring
The End of the Third Age

All enclosed in a beautiful red slipcase.

Not sure about the slipcase, but in the J.R.R. Tolkien Encyclopedia (2006) entry on The Treason of Isengard, John F.G. Magoun writes:

"At least one edition of The Lord of the Rings has since been published as six individual books, with book 3 bearing the original title" (675).

[RoseMorninStar]

Frelga: NO! Say it ain't so!

[Alatar]

I nearly picked this up at the time, but they were pretty poor quality paperbacks.



https://biblio.co.uk/book/lord-rings-7- ... qIQAvD_BwE

However, if you have the money...



https://www.amazon.com/Lord-Rings-Mille ... 0618037667

For the first time, The Lord of the Rings is presented as a boxed set of seven hardcover volumes, one for each of its six parts plus a seventh volume containing maps and the appendices. Bound in black covers with the distinctive Eye of Sauron design from the original jackets embossed in red and gold foil on each volume. Each book bears Tolkien's originally conceived title -- The Ring Sets Out, The Ring Goes South, The Treason at Isengard, The Ring Goes East, The War of the Ring, The End of the Third Age -- and has been specially typeset for this edition.

[Jude]

Hmm... when I zoom in on the image, I just see "The Lord of the Rings" on each volume. Also, it doesn't have Frodo's original title of "The Downfall of the Lord of the Rings and the Return of the King".

It's a beautiful edition. But it doesn't fulfill my criteria.

[Inanna]

And it’s 500!!!! Dollars.

[elengil]

Yes, but how long until he's as old as he was in the movie?

[Jude]

24 years from now. Or was that rhetorical?

[elengil]

24 years from now. Or was that rhetorical?

A little of both.