Same-sex, whole-milk marriage: 50 Shades of Gay
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While I am pleased with the primary result of the ruling, it is disappointing that the Court (which is say, Justice Kennedy) once again refused to say whether it believes that sexual orientation is classification which requires heightened scrutiny. The crux of Kennedy's opinion is that marriage is a fundamental right, and that refusing to allow same sex couples to marry the partner of their choice unconstitutionally infringes upon that right. While he also gives lip service to the idea that denying same sex couples the right to marry infringes upon their right to equal protection, he does so while still avoiding saying whether the standard should be rational basis or strict scrutiny. As far as I am concerned, under either standard their right to equal protection is infringed, because I don't believe their is any rational basis for banning same sex couples from marrying, but the result is that the door remains open to discriminating against people because of their sexual orientation with far greater impunity than because of their race, gender, age, etc.
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So there's still another case to be fought all the way to SCOTUS.
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There was no way on Earth they were going to go there, though, in the same case they swept away gay marriage bans. Not this court, not this majority.
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I think that will be down the line a while. There is no hope, for instance, that ENDA (the Employment Non-Discrimination Act) which is designed to add sexual orientation and gender identity as classes protected from employment discrimination will pass any time in the foreseeable future (actually, after the Hobby Lobby decision, even some major LGBTQ groups withdrew support from ENDA because of fears that the religious exemptions written into it would sanction discrimination).
Even with marriage equality, the fight is over yet.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/k ... y-marriage
I suspect that in many of the most conservative states, there will be tremendous pushback, and downright refusal to follow this decision.
ETA: cross-posted with Ax.
Even with marriage equality, the fight is over yet.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/k ... y-marriage
I suspect that in many of the most conservative states, there will be tremendous pushback, and downright refusal to follow this decision.
ETA: cross-posted with Ax.
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Re: Same-sex, whole-milk marriage: the Majestic Majority
New thread title ideas please.
I won't just survive
Oh, you will see me thrive
Can't write my story
I'm beyond the archetype
I won't just conform
No matter how you shake my core
'Cause my roots, they run deep, oh
When, when the fire's at my feet again
And the vultures all start circling
They're whispering, "You're out of time,"
But still I rise
This is no mistake, no accident
When you think the final nail is in, think again
Don't be surprised, I will still rise
Oh, you will see me thrive
Can't write my story
I'm beyond the archetype
I won't just conform
No matter how you shake my core
'Cause my roots, they run deep, oh
When, when the fire's at my feet again
And the vultures all start circling
They're whispering, "You're out of time,"
But still I rise
This is no mistake, no accident
When you think the final nail is in, think again
Don't be surprised, I will still rise
Re: Same-sex, whole-milk marriage: the Majestic Majority
#LoveWins
I wanna love somebody but I don't know how
I wanna throw my body in the river and drown
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I wanna throw my body in the river and drown
-The Decemberists
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Marriage, Just Marriage
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"Freedom of Intimacy"
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Re: Same-sex, whole-milk marriage: the Majestic Majority
"...and other mystic aphorisms"
I wanna love somebody but I don't know how
I wanna throw my body in the river and drown
-The Decemberists
I wanna throw my body in the river and drown
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Re: Same-sex, whole-milk marriage: the Majestic Majority
"The fantastic fifty"?
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This is amusing, given that same sex marriage has been legal in Canada for ten years next month:
http://globalnews.ca/news/2077757/gay-m ... to-canada/
http://globalnews.ca/news/2077757/gay-m ... to-canada/
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Re: Same-sex, whole-milk marriage: the Majestic Majority
"50 States of Gay"
(Stolen from the #Lovewins feed which I've been going through. )
xpost with V-man - I assume they're moving to Canada so they can get some wedding tips from people with more experience.
(Stolen from the #Lovewins feed which I've been going through. )
xpost with V-man - I assume they're moving to Canada so they can get some wedding tips from people with more experience.
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I wanna love somebody but I don't know how
I wanna throw my body in the river and drown
-The Decemberists
I wanna throw my body in the river and drown
-The Decemberists
Re: Same-sex, whole-milk marriage: the Majestic Majority
I think yov may have one this round...
Re: Same-sex, whole-milk marriage: the Majestic Majority
So many great pics out there...
I wanna love somebody but I don't know how
I wanna throw my body in the river and drown
-The Decemberists
I wanna throw my body in the river and drown
-The Decemberists
Re: Same-sex, whole-milk marriage: the Majestic Majority
Fabulous fifty.Jude wrote:"The fantastic fifty"?
And I just saw yo'v post...
Fifty Shades of Gay. Definitely Fifty Shades of Gay.
When you can do nothing what can you do?
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I wanna love somebody but I don't know how
I wanna throw my body in the river and drown
-The Decemberists
I wanna throw my body in the river and drown
-The Decemberists
Re: Same-sex, whole-milk marriage: 50 Shades of Gay
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Re: Same-sex, whole-milk marriage: 50 Shades of Gay
Rainbows all over my Facebook feed. Am loving it.
When you can do nothing what can you do?
Re: Same-sex, whole-milk marriage: 50 Shades of Gay
Rainbows all over Twitter, too.
Meanwhile, Scott Walker calls for a Constitutional amendment to allow states define marriage. I doubt that he'll get any farther than talking about it.
Meanwhile, Scott Walker calls for a Constitutional amendment to allow states define marriage. I doubt that he'll get any farther than talking about it.
If there was anything that depressed him more than his own cynicism, it was that quite often it still wasn't as cynical as real life.
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Terry Pratchett, Guards! Guards!
Re: Same-sex, whole-milk marriage: 50 Shades of Gay
Aren't constitutional amendments difficult to get through the legislature in the US. That might just be my perception as the US has a handful of amendments, compared to India.
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Please bear with my typos & grammar mistakes. Sent from my iPhone - Palantirs make mistakes too.
'You just said "your getting shorter": you've obviously been drinking too much ent-draught and not enough Prim's.' - Jude