Trump's America
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Seriously, does anyone in the US benefit from Trump's unilateral trade wars? Why isn't big business using its purchased Congressmen to push back?
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They will when they're done making money on short sales.
When you can do nothing what can you do?
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You have got to be kidding me. WTF is happening and why is nobody stopping it?
https://www.bbc.com/news/44537372
https://www.bbc.com/news/44537372
The Vinyamars on Stage! This time at Bag End
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I literally had three different ideas what that link might go to, and none was right.
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I've always argued that big business has less influence over American politics than is often thought. If it did, the country would be more like Hong Kong or Singapore.Dave_LF wrote:Seriously, does anyone in the US benefit from Trump's unilateral trade wars? Why isn't big business using its purchased Congressmen to push back?
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Why is Trump doing this? (Withdrawing from the U. N. Human Rights Council.) Well, here's a pretty good reason:
https://www.facebook.com/TheOther98/pho ... 45/?type=3
https://www.facebook.com/TheOther98/pho ... 45/?type=3
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And you think that love is only for the lucky and the strong,
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The two things have nothing to do with each other, even if the timing seems coincidental. The withdrawal from the U.N. Human Rights Council has been in the works for some time, and is all about perceived bias against Israel. It has nothing to do with the new "non-policy" of separating families at the border.
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I am suspicious of coincidences although I acknowledge that they do happen. The child internment did not happen overnight, either. A lot of logistical preparation had to happen before those tent cities sprung up.
At the very least, the announcement coming at the same time as the implementation of a child internment policy LOOKS like an intentional flaunting, and no one in the administration appears to care.
Mind, the are valid reasons to criticize the UN.
Meanwhile in the UK, Nigel Farage.
At the very least, the announcement coming at the same time as the implementation of a child internment policy LOOKS like an intentional flaunting, and no one in the administration appears to care.
Mind, the are valid reasons to criticize the UN.
Meanwhile in the UK, Nigel Farage.
Americans want strong borders. @realDonaldTrump has got to stay tough on this and ignore the screams coming from the liberal media. https://t.co/Q7hOZjMCb9
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Fixed it for them.Americans want strong borders. @realDonaldTrump has got to stay tough on this and ignore the screams coming from the children. https://t.co/Q7hOZjMCb9
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Trump just signed an executive order ending the separation of families. I took the biggest sigh I’ve taken since ages.
I just hope they manage to join the separated families without losing any kids.
I just hope they manage to join the separated families without losing any kids.
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They probably already have lost some.
The order means that children and their parents can both be incarcerated indefinitely. Previously children had to be released after 20 days.
The order means that children and their parents can both be incarcerated indefinitely. Previously children had to be released after 20 days.
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Here's an immigration lawyer explaining the executive order. It's... problematic.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1009 ... 58304.html
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1009 ... 58304.html
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That's one word. Another that comes to mind is "insane".
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They are not a planning to get separated families together. WTF
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Is it insane when it's deliberate?
Meanwhile in Oregon
https://twitter.com/karinapdx/status/10 ... 9835745280
Meanwhile in Oregon
https://twitter.com/karinapdx/status/10 ... 9835745280
Oregon’s top federal defender had to cancel her trip to Sheridan today to speak with asylum seekers imprisoned there. A scabies outbreak demonstrates the very thing she is investigating: if conditions - 3 to a cell, 23 hours/day for 3weeks now - are unconstitutional. Story coming
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Some people do benefit from trade wars, even if the majority suffer. If nobody benefited, then it wouldn't happen.
It's like the gasoline ethanol mandates. They benefit a very small number of corn farmers, but hurt everyone else. The hurt is small and spread out, the benefit is very concentrated, so people suffer from it and the program is "successful."
It's like the gasoline ethanol mandates. They benefit a very small number of corn farmers, but hurt everyone else. The hurt is small and spread out, the benefit is very concentrated, so people suffer from it and the program is "successful."
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Gasoline ethanol mandates are beyond dumb.
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Welp, we now have the President of the United States calling for suspension of the rule of law. As per usual procedure, this is initially aimed at the most vulnerable group, which at the same time is being dehumanized as, quote, "animals" that "infest" the country. It won't stop there. It never does.
We cannot allow all of these people to invade our Country. When somebody comes in, we must immediately, with no Judges or Court Cases, bring them back from where they came. Our system is a mockery to good immigration policy and Law and Order. Most children come without parents...
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Not much different from the last 50 years then.Frelga wrote:Welp, we now have the President of the United States calling for suspension of the rule of law.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen."
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Suspension of the Constitution, not just the rule of law.
“There, peeping among the cloud-wrack above a dark tor high up in the mountains, Sam saw a white star twinkle for a while. The beauty of it smote his heart, as he looked up out of the forsaken land, and hope returned to him. For like a shaft, clear and cold, the thought pierced him that in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach.”
― J.R.R. Tolkien, The Return of the King
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