The History of the Silmarils - a serialization
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Voronwë the Faithful
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Ethelwynn has kindly forwarded some new material, despite a family loss over the past week. Our condolences, to you and your loved ones, Ethelwynn. 
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At last some new material for you, from Ethelwynn, to see Tuor safely out of Lorgan's clutches...
I'll be taking over again from this point for a while, and fingers-crossed we shall get Tuor all the way to Vinyamar by the end of the episode. One more instalment should do it, I reckon. (It's probably become apparent by now that this season opener has turned into a feature length extended edition!)
Your namesake will be with us shortly, to open Episode 2, Voronwë - hope you can contain your excitement!
I'll be taking over again from this point for a while, and fingers-crossed we shall get Tuor all the way to Vinyamar by the end of the episode. One more instalment should do it, I reckon. (It's probably become apparent by now that this season opener has turned into a feature length extended edition!)
Your namesake will be with us shortly, to open Episode 2, Voronwë - hope you can contain your excitement!
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More? You mean you want us to make stuff up????
He will be in our story more or less as he is in the UT account - so yes, more than in the published Silmarillion, if that's what you mean...
He will be in our story more or less as he is in the UT account - so yes, more than in the published Silmarillion, if that's what you mean...
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Hmmm....V?
You know the "Gate of the Noldor" sequence where Tolkien named the two Elves Arminas and Gelmir, apparently 'forgetting' he had named a rather more significant Elf of Nargothrond Gelmir already?
Well, since we already featured said Gelmir in Seasons 4 and 5, I'm not really keen on using the same name again in case the audience (should it remember!) is confused. Do you have any thoughts on this? Should we keep it or change it? and if you vote change, should we go for a completely different name, or something fairly close, maybe one letter different, such as Geldir?
You know the "Gate of the Noldor" sequence where Tolkien named the two Elves Arminas and Gelmir, apparently 'forgetting' he had named a rather more significant Elf of Nargothrond Gelmir already?
Well, since we already featured said Gelmir in Seasons 4 and 5, I'm not really keen on using the same name again in case the audience (should it remember!) is confused. Do you have any thoughts on this? Should we keep it or change it? and if you vote change, should we go for a completely different name, or something fairly close, maybe one letter different, such as Geldir?
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My initial reaction would be to say keep it, but the more I think about it, the more I sympathize with the concern about audience confusion. But I don't like changing it either, so I don't know what to suggest. 
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Okay...after a long deliberation I offer my usual compromise solution!
Would it be acceptable to keep his given name of Gelmir, but add an invented patronymic?
e.g., Gelmir Ethirion...
Would it be acceptable to keep his given name of Gelmir, but add an invented patronymic?
e.g., Gelmir Ethirion...
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But your opinion is valued, all the same... 
The annoying thing is, going by the UT dialogue, his name is only spoken aloud once, which is when he introduces himself and Arminas, so in a way, it's hardly worth worrying about! They could be simply referred to as Elf 1 and Elf 2 if not for that...
Oh, and since their errand is not referred to specifically, I thought it simpler just to refer to them as being of Círdan's people, rather than get into the whole refugees from Angrod's people when Dorthinion was over run, then having been sheltered by Círdan for many years! That's why I suggested a suitably Falathrim patronymic - but I may take another look at that.
ETA: Yep, they do say they are returning with an errand to the lands they fled, so I guess I'll make them Angrod's people...
The annoying thing is, going by the UT dialogue, his name is only spoken aloud once, which is when he introduces himself and Arminas, so in a way, it's hardly worth worrying about! They could be simply referred to as Elf 1 and Elf 2 if not for that...
Oh, and since their errand is not referred to specifically, I thought it simpler just to refer to them as being of Círdan's people, rather than get into the whole refugees from Angrod's people when Dorthinion was over run, then having been sheltered by Círdan for many years! That's why I suggested a suitably Falathrim patronymic - but I may take another look at that.
ETA: Yep, they do say they are returning with an errand to the lands they fled, so I guess I'll make them Angrod's people...
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No - that's outside the remit we set ourselves! Our Quenta Silmarillion is tightly focused around the Silmaril that was retrieved by Beren and Lúthien.
Children of Húrin would be a better served as a project on its own, IMO...
We already glossed over the Fall of Nargothrond at the beginning of Season5, when we had Húrin collect the Nauglamír from there and bring it to Thingol. Season 5 was all about the fall of Doriath...now we've jumped back in time for Season 6, and will follow the parallel storyline of the Fall of Gondolin to the point where Elwing and Eärendil's threads meet, culminating in the Third Kinslaying at Sirion.
I should warn you now that the plan is to get through the Fall of Gondolin up to Eärendil arriving in Valinor in just 6 episodes, so it will be somewhat streamlined but hopefully that will spare us too much invention!
I do have is all mapped out but as can be seen from the first episode, Ethelwynn always gives me more than I asked for!
Children of Húrin would be a better served as a project on its own, IMO...
We already glossed over the Fall of Nargothrond at the beginning of Season5, when we had Húrin collect the Nauglamír from there and bring it to Thingol. Season 5 was all about the fall of Doriath...now we've jumped back in time for Season 6, and will follow the parallel storyline of the Fall of Gondolin to the point where Elwing and Eärendil's threads meet, culminating in the Third Kinslaying at Sirion.
I should warn you now that the plan is to get through the Fall of Gondolin up to Eärendil arriving in Valinor in just 6 episodes, so it will be somewhat streamlined but hopefully that will spare us too much invention!
I do have is all mapped out but as can be seen from the first episode, Ethelwynn always gives me more than I asked for!
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Well, since my intentionally humorous suggestion got no response I've decided to just keep our friend as plain old Gelmir for now. Maybe if Arminas mumbles the name no one will catch it anyway?
At least we've finally got to the end of Episode #1! I had to go back and add in Ethelwynn's hounds to what I already had in place, but I'll try to ensure they'll remain firmly in the background if I can't persuade her to lose them somehow...
At least we've finally got to the end of Episode #1! I had to go back and add in Ethelwynn's hounds to what I already had in place, but I'll try to ensure they'll remain firmly in the background if I can't persuade her to lose them somehow...
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Yeah, they're okay...I just didn't want too many echoes of Beren and Huan, 'tis all. I thought it might have been neat if one of the old hounds turned up out of the blue while Voronwë & Tuor are on the verge of freezing to death, and saves them, but it appears we're keeping them for now!
Btw, it probably goes without saying, but in case anyone's wondering, we cut the whole 4 years as an outlaw business since nothing really happens, and we needed to drive the plot forward...
Btw, it probably goes without saying, but in case anyone's wondering, we cut the whole 4 years as an outlaw business since nothing really happens, and we needed to drive the plot forward...
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